Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 2nd Jun 2008 09:36 UTC
General Development Ars has just published part three in their series "From Win32 to Cocoa", in which Peter Bright explains why he thinks "Windows is dying, Windows applications suck, and Microsoft is too blinkered to fix any of it." Part one dealt with the history of both development platforms, part two dived into .Net, different types of programmers, and Windows Vista, and part three details the development platform and tools Apple has to offer, and in what ways they are superior or inferior to Windows'.
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mnemonics
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2006-04-21

Flexibility = Instability

With such a statement I (we) have a much better understanding of how the logical part of your brain works...

And it reminds me of the famous slogans of the party in G. Orwell's book "1984". After "War is peace", "Freedom is slavery" and "Ignorance is strengh" we finaly have a forth slogan "Flexibility is instability". Thank you so so much !!!

Objective-C is a poor man's object-oriented language, circa 1990. It doesn't go far enough in implementing the kinds of useful features that C++ provides...

You do realize that in the above sentence one can freely interposes Objective-C and C++ and your sentence will reamain as "true" as in your original sentence. It's just a matter of preference (very subjective by essence) and your preferences are valuable for only one person on this planet.... you !!!

...and I'm stunned that anybody would want to use it when they could be using C++

Funny but I'm not stunned at all. I wonder why....

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tomcat Member since:
2006-01-06

Thank you so so much !!!


You're welcome. You plainly see an archaic defect in Objective-C as some kind of benefit, so whatever. More power to you. Enjoy it, if it works for you.

It's just a matter of preference (very subjective by essence) and your preferences are valuable for only one person on this planet.... you !!!


LMAO! Rrrrrright. I'm quite confident that, if you were to actually check around, you'd find that the people that prefer Objective-C to C++ is a very small number, indeed. The problem (I think) is that you've been using Objective-C so long that you've lost the [objective] capacity to know that it's crap.

Edited 2008-06-02 23:56 UTC

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mnemonics Member since:
2006-04-21

Enjoy it, if it works for you.

It works for me, for Apple devs and thousands of 3rd party devs... Now you learnt ObjC (a mandatory step to understand it), you wrote several real life programs with it (another mandatory step to understand it) and still it doesn't work for you... There's something weird....

LMAO

You're at the first step of a 3 steps process:
“If you want to make someone angry tell him a lie; if you want to make him furious, tell him the truth. All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed* , second it is violently opposed, and third it is accepted as self-evident.” - Arthur Schopenhauer, Philosopher, 1788-1860

*:Where you are.

I'm quite confident that, if you were to actually check around, you'd find that the people that prefer Objective-C to C++ is a very small number, indeed

Using exactly the same kind of intellectual (biaised, non-argumented, dishonnest) stunt, one can say that the "Elite" is always composed by a very small number, indeed !


The problem (I think) is that you've been using Objective-C so long that you've lost the [objective] capacity to know that it's crap.

I've been using ObjC for about 5 years and C++ for about 7 years.
While I can easily count your subjective, non-argumented statements against ObjC, you can't give a single example of my subjective, non-argumented statements against C++ since I use and like C++ too. Still, according to you, "I" lost objective capacity to know...

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