Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 20th Jun 2008 23:18 UTC
Mozilla & Gecko clones I've seen superlative after superlative concerning the release of Firefox 3.0, and in all honesty, it is making my stomach ache. Yes, Firefox 3.0 is a great release. It has a slicker interface (the UI on Vista looks quite pretty) and the use of native widgets in Linux is a very, very welcome addition. On top of that, it actually delivers what I was craving for the most from my favourite Windows web browser: much improved performance. But does Firefox 3.0 change the web, or alter the way we use the intertubes?
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Comment by Auxx
by Auxx on Sat 21st Jun 2008 09:48 UTC
Auxx
Member since:
2007-04-05

Actually it feels like Mozilla guys are lost their programmers in favor of PR guys. They make great overhyped commercials and forget about browser itself. FF3 does not fill consistent, it is more like a bunch of features ripped from extensions and implemented as native code without thinking of how to make them live together in a nice way. And they don't go forward, just repeat steps of other browsers. When did you see some feature in FF that would blow your mind? I don't remember anything.

I think they should stop promoting browser and start working on it, start listening to users. And not only to FF users, but to users of other browsers. They should rethink what they do and how, sit down all together and think how to make a browser more usable, less relying on extensions and more powerfull for one thing - browsing!

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RE: Comment by Auxx
by rain on Sat 21st Jun 2008 10:26 in reply to "Comment by Auxx"
rain Member since:
2005-07-09

I think they should stop promoting browser and start working on it, start listening to users. And not only to FF users, but to users of other browsers. They should rethink what they do and how, sit down all together and think how to make a browser more usable, less relying on extensions and more powerfull for one thing - browsing!


As far as I can tell the developers has worked very hard on FF3. It's much more optimized and has a smaller footprint. That in itself is a proof because such things require a lot of hard and (IMO) boring work.

It seems that you are expecting some kind of miracle, yet you have no idea of what that miracle is. You just want to get blown away. I wouldn't expect a browser that has to be backwards compatible and stick to the standards to blow anyone away.

I prefer that they keep working on the core and leave the innovation to the addon developers.
In order to create something new that will blow people away it would probably be better to start over from scratch. And even then, it's a hard thing to do.

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RE[2]: Comment by Auxx
by PlatformAgnostic on Sun 22nd Jun 2008 06:33 in reply to "RE: Comment by Auxx"
PlatformAgnostic Member since:
2006-01-02

Perf work is usually pretty exciting in my opinion. You can often get great results through a series of small tweaks. Sometimes, though, you find that you need to just start from scratch and reimplement everything below a particular interface. This tradeoff makes things interesting.

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RE: Comment by Auxx
by lemur2 on Sat 21st Jun 2008 11:51 in reply to "Comment by Auxx"
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

sit down all together and think how to make a browser more usable, less relying on extensions and more powerfull for one thing - browsing!


Contradiction in ideas there.

Mozilla has made the core browser better and faster.

The way that you make the browser more usable for the vast variety of users is ... to rely on extensions for the fancy UI bits. That way one user who might like it this way ... and another user who likes it some other (contradictory) way can both be satisfied.

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