Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 24th Jun 2008 11:07 UTC
Internet & Networking Linux.com has a review of Opera 9.5, which also includes various benchmarks for Opera, Firefox, Safari, and IE on both Windows and Linux. Linuxcom concludes: "Opera 9.5 is full to the brim with features and improvements and highly customizable. By rolling in apps such as the mail client and IRC chat application, and integrating them into a user's browsing experience, Opera 9.5 is a worthy challenger to Firefox 3. It surely has enough power and features to make it my favorite browser. If only it were free software and open source!"
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what would an OSS change for a simple user ?
by leo_ on Tue 24th Jun 2008 15:15 UTC
leo_
Member since:
2007-09-04

If only it were free software and open source!

I'd like to understand... what would that change for you, simple user ?

And btw, if Linux distributions weren't so close-minded, they would have more permissive licences, and including such great software as Opera in their distro wouldn't be such a problem...

Maybe the code is opened... but for sure it's not open as in "open-minded"...

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MamiyaOtaru Member since:
2005-11-11

And btw, if Linux distributions weren't so close-minded, they would have more permissive licences, and including such great software as Opera in their distro wouldn't be such a problem...

Their decision not to include Opera doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the license used by Linux and the distros. The Opera license doesn't permit redistribution without permission. Some distros will seek that permission, others won't bother. It's the Opera license that's the hang-up here.

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lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

"If only it were free software and open source!
I'd like to understand... what would that change for you, simple user ? "

http://www.answers.com/audit?cat=biz-fin

In principle the same as, but less formal than, this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_audit_review
... or like this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_review
... or like this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_inspection

The ability to audit/verify/inspect the software. Not that a simple user can do this, but the simple user can be assured that it is possible to do (with open source) and that experts (software programmers) do actually do it, and they also end up using the software themselves.

Firefox has that. The exact same software that is offered to you, the simple user, has been poured over by experts (software programmers) who did not write the code, but who do understand the code, and who are in the same position as the said simple user ... they have an interest to run the code themselves.

IE does not have this feature where simple users of the software can be assured it has been audited by parties with the same self-interest as they have. Opera does not have this. Firefox does have this. It is a priceless feature ... it means you can be assured that there is nothing in the code (such as for example hidden spyware) that is not in your interest as a simple user ... becuase if there were those people who can audit the software would not be using it themselves.

And btw, if Linux distributions weren't so close-minded, they would have more permissive licences, and including such great software as Opera in their distro wouldn't be such a problem... Maybe the code is opened... but for sure it's not open as in "open-minded"...


The Opera browser belongs to Opera software (the company), who have the right to distribute it. Linux distributions do not automatically have permission to distribute it.

Linux distributions do in fact have permission to distribute GPL software ... they are in fact licensed to do so ... the license is the GPL itself.

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abdavidson Member since:
2005-07-06

A favourite catchcry of certain members of the F/OSS fraternity is about Microsoft's FUDslinging.

And yet here we have that selfsame FUD being thrown around about Opera. It's not open source so *Whisper and looking over shoulder* there could be hidden spyware in there.

What absolute rot.

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