Linked by Eugenia Loli-Queru on Wed 2nd Jul 2008 23:50 UTC
Linux CodingExperiments.com posted an interesting article by utilizing the Google Trends system to show the trends in the Linux ecosystem. While these trends don't mean "market share", they are interesting and pretty accurate in terms of what average users care about. According to it, "Ubuntu" might even overtake the word "linux" in Google's searches.
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Gee, ya think??!!?
by cmost on Thu 3rd Jul 2008 00:50 UTC
cmost
Member since:
2006-07-16

Some people think Linux IS Ubuntu. Ubuntu is all you hear some people talk about on many technical sites. Many a newb downloads and installs Ubuntu and suddenly thinks he's an expert in Debian Linux. OSnews posts dozens upon dozens of Ubuntu related articles; Digg posts dozens upon dozens of Ubuntu related articles; Gnome-look.org is loaded with Ubuntu specific themes (even when they have nothing to do specifically with Ubuntu they're often posted as for Ubuntu,) etc. Anyone who dares to criticize Ubuntu is ripped to shreds. The point to this? It's obvious to anyone who has anything whatsoever to do with the tech community that Ubuntu is gaining (has gained) momentum. Let's stop posting non-news shall we?

RE: Gee, ya think??!!?
by stabbyjones on Thu 3rd Jul 2008 01:09 in reply to "Gee, ya think??!!?"
stabbyjones Member since:
2008-04-15

People being taken apart for badmouthing Ubuntu? I don't think the community is that zealous yet. Although there are a few "it just works" types cropping up.

Ubuntu is getting way more coverage than any other distro by far so it makes sense that google has it trending upwards.

Most people using distros other than ubuntu will be doing a lot less searching because we've already learn't how to deal with problems. While online searches trend down the userbase should by all rights be gaining knowledge to fix their own issues without Google.

Over time there will be new users who feel ubuntu talks down to them a bit too much. Everyone has to start somewhere and Ubuntu is helping bring a lot of people to open source so that can only be a good thing.

Ubuntu is a great Debian training manual. ;)

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RE[2]: Gee, ya think??!!?
by ruel24 on Thu 3rd Jul 2008 03:09 in reply to "RE: Gee, ya think??!!?"
ruel24 Member since:
2006-03-21

If you think that people aren't being ripped to shreds over suggesting Ubuntu isn't the greatest thing since Linus originally released the Linux kernel, then you haven't paid attention. Talk about fanboyism... Ubuntu is hyped to death all over the internet, and if someone questions the claims of how it's great for beginners, or its security model (sudo), Ubuntu users will shout them down. It's almost as if it's a global warming debate...

I can't seem to go through a day without some review of Ubuntu somewhere talking it up like it's some religious cult, or something. There's nothing wrong with Ubuntu, and it has its strengths, but there are alternatives that are just as good, and suit others just as well. I use a smaller distro, PCLinuxOS, and I'll use it as long as it's released as my main desktop, even if only a handful of users even bother downloading it. I'm just not on someone's bandwagon. Other distros are just as viable an alternative.

Hey...it's all Linux, so it's all good!

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by melkor on Fri 4th Jul 2008 01:25 in reply to "RE: Gee, ya think??!!?"
melkor Member since:
2006-12-16

Bull - people have been taken apart for criticising Ubuntu, myself one of them. This has happened from the earliest days of this distributions arrival.

I dislike the Gnome desktop/philosophy, and Ubuntu concentrating on Gnome, rather than several desktop environments, instead of letting the user choose, does not impress me.

Furthermore, a recent forum issue left an even more bitter taste in my mouth. I was very reluctant to try Ubuntu, and after that incident, I wiped Ubuntu and put Debian Etch AMD64 on my new PC.

Dave

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RE: Gee, ya think??!!?
by ljgshkg on Thu 3rd Jul 2008 03:13 in reply to "Gee, ya think??!!?"
ljgshkg Member since:
2008-03-25

I share your dislike also about gnome-look filling with ubuntu specific stuff. But then, it shows that Ubuntu is building up a strong brand loyalty, stronger than other distributions I've seen (at least on gnome-look).

My feeling from what I see is that Ubuntu's brandname is built on its pretty good hardware support plus a community that feels "safe" while feeling they're using something "open and free". It's a mixed good of the corporate world and open source communities.

I guess, instead of disliking them, may be other projects can learn something from them.

Also, they have different target audiance. People who "really" support open source tend to be those who like to customize stuff and have their own style. While Ubuntu successfully assorbed a lot of non-tech-people who are more likely to be a fanboy compare to tech-people.

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RE: Gee, ya think??!!?
by 6c1452 on Thu 3rd Jul 2008 05:46 in reply to "Gee, ya think??!!?"
6c1452 Member since:
2007-08-29

That's funny, because a few months ago all the cool kids on this site were bashing ubuntu. It seems to be more neutral recently, though


And, everybody? Power users can use ubuntu too. It's just another distro.

Me? I use it. If I moved to another distro, I would have to find out why tasks X and Y don't work, then make them work. Then I would use the new distro in exactly the same manner as I used ubuntu. Seems kinda pointless.

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RE: Gee, ya think??!!?
by Soulbender on Thu 3rd Jul 2008 08:36 in reply to "Gee, ya think??!!?"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

Jealousy is so ugly.

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RE: Gee, ya think??!!?
by Lambda on Thu 3rd Jul 2008 13:02 in reply to "Gee, ya think??!!?"
Lambda Member since:
2006-07-28

Some people think Linux IS Ubuntu.


And some people think that Linux is an operating system.

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RE[2]: Gee, ya think??!!?
by John Blink on Thu 3rd Jul 2008 13:48 in reply to "RE: Gee, ya think??!!?"
John Blink Member since:
2005-10-11

?? I thought Redhat is Linux ??


;)

Edited 2008-07-03 13:55 UTC

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