Linked by Eugenia Loli-Queru on Sat 5th Jul 2008 22:03 UTC
KDE KDE 4.1 is supposed to make everything right with the recently troubled desktop. Everyone agrees now that KDE 4.0 was a mistake. However, what the mistake was -- and whose -- is a matter of opinion. KDE developers blame distributions for rushing to include a release that was never intended for everyday use, while users blame developers for changing everything. More here. Also, Tectonic published an article titled "Beyond the desktop with KDE4", while the now well-known for its sarcasm 'Linux Hater' blog has something to say too (warning: some profanity).
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RE[4]: Amazingly poor choice.
by Eugenia on Sat 5th Jul 2008 22:50 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Amazingly poor choice. "
Eugenia
Member since:
2005-06-28

And please spare me the "oh my god, you are an editor on OS News, how can you write something like this about OSS?". Well, look, I NEVER lie. Just because I can post stories here doesn't mean that I don't have a personal opinion too.

Desktop OSS has been a disappointment and a failure to my experience and to what I need from an OS.

And that's that and there is nothing more to add in that, neither it makes sense to conceal this opinion under the pretentious "OSNews' senior editor" title.

This doesn't mean that I put forward my agenda though on the stories I publish. As you can see, I post both positive and negative articles about all topics. And of course, I will be HAPPY to post your opinion piece, taking on Linux Hater's opinions and rebutting them.

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rexstuff Member since:
2007-04-06

Desktop OSS has been a disappointment and a failure to my experience and to what I need from an OS.


Which is a legitimate opinion. I even sympathize a little. I've always found that while remaining preferable to their inexpressive, proprietary brethren, open source projects often tend to lack that little 'polish', that last mile that is needed in a desktop application.

And no, you have been good about not pushing your agenda through your role as staff (at least, until now). In fact, this came as a bit of a surprise to me.

None of this excuses the sort of ignorant, empty, hate-spewing (and really, his name is appropriate - he is full of nothing but hatred) rhetoric that is found on such places as the Linux Hater's blog.

There is a right way and a wrong way to critize. Proper criticism gives those you critique the opportunity to learn and to grow from what you have to say. The Linux Hater, and others like him, resort to simple belittlement and mockery of those that they disagree with.

That's the easy way out.

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ralph Member since:
2005-07-10

Well, look, I NEVER lie.

LOL. Judging from your past performance, that's debatable at best.


Just because I can post stories here doesn't mean that I don't have a personal opinion too.

Who said it did? Nobody.
However, if your editing of this site consists of nothing but loudly proclaiming your opinion and abusing every story to grind your axe, you are simply a terrible editor.


And that's that and there is nothing more to add in that, neither it makes sense to conceal this opinion under the pretentious "OSNews' senior editor" title.

The point is, simple abusing your own site for your personal trolling and vengance makes you a terrible editor and OSNews a joke.

And you really should have gotten over the fact the the open source guys and gals didn't want to play with you anymore after you spread lies about them. Oh, wait, you never lie...


This doesn't mean that I put forward my agenda though on the stories I publish.

But that's exactly what you do, making you a pathetic troll, even if you call yourself Senior Editor of some hobby site.

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schoate09 Member since:
2007-08-19

The immature manner in which you are currently acting is inexcusable given your position on this site.

If I acted the way you do, using derogatory profanities (even if you do in fact blank them out), I'd be banned from the site. The editors should not only be held to the same, but a higher and less tolerant standard. What keeps a discussion forum intact and following a precedent is the way any users with a higher title act.

I will NOT spare you the "OMG but you're an OSNews editor". Now, you also have disgraced the title of the site for which you are indeed the editor. You're talking as if you're doing everyone a favor while Thom is away, and that's not true. If you cannot be subjective, and learn to accept the heat for posting an article with questionable information, then I think I'd speak for everyone when I say we'd be better off without you. I saw the same article on digg, it's one thing for an article so biased, and so un-tactful and offensive in delivering it's points to be submitted to a user content site, it's another thing for it to be submitted by an editor of an editor-controlled submission site.

Calling OSS users/developers "lusers" shows an extreme bias. I could understand you saying that OSS has brought you nothing. I can't fault you for that opinion (although I can rightfully agree), however the way you (just like the author), use derogatory language to describe the people who work for a goal which they follow ideologically is uncalled for.

My theory on why you took to such a bitter turn is you have an issue with admitting fault. I don't know if you really do feel this strongly for the article, but rather you don't want to be proven wrong. In which case, that Senior Editor tag you don't care about really does mean something to you. I'm basing this on two semesters of psychology I had.

The bottom line from all of this is that you acted in a near childish manner, unable to accept the criticism of the site's users. You were offensive, linked to a questionable article, demeaned the title of Editor (essentially showing you don't care), demeaning the site as a whole, and overall acted in a site that damages the atmosphere of the community.

My feeling, and I'm sure most will agree with me, is that you should be dismissed from your position. If you don't like it, I, and I think most can agree with me, we would rather not have you around if you're going to act like this.

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apoclypse Member since:
2007-02-17

Buy this man a beer!

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