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the terminal is the ace up your sleeve.
For me apt-get is enough :-), but I think that even Synaptic is still not enough for a totally new person to linux/ubuntu. For example, once you write mp3 or avi in Synaptic you get dozens of packages to choose from. Automatix, on the other hand, used to give very easy way to install essential stuff such as mp3 and avi support.
Edited 2008-07-07 05:13 UTC
Adding an easier-to-use more special-purpose apt front end would be fine, and it would address the shortcomings you find with synaptic. The answer is *not* to add in an additional third party package manager.
By layering on more software about which the normal system--and by this I mean apt--is completely ignorant is a recipe for disaster. First of all, package management is a hard problem which automatix solves not at all. It just throws stuff on and hopes it will work. Secondly, since apt does not know about the random junk that may or may not have been thrown on it cannot handle it gracefully and is more likely (more apt? hehe) to break in the future.
Adding non-apt stuff to a Debian-type system is fine, if you know what you're doing. Users of automatix almost by definition do not possess that kind of expertise.
What would be wrong with doing *exactly* what automatix does, GUI-wise, and providing *exactly* the same software, but in the form of .deb files in an apt repository? It would be entirely possible, and actually easier since you would be leveraging the existing capabilities of the system. No one would object to such a tool.
Instead you have automatix which, much in the manner of DOS and Windows installers of old, charges through your system in an uncontrolled and irresponsible manner, changing who knows what with completely unknown consequences.
Fedora users should stay away. They already have a package manager.
Edited 2008-07-07 11:31 UTC







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i used automatix when i first looked at ubuntu. a modified apt that added a "automatix" category would have been better.
adding another layer of package management does not make things easier and instead creates another level of confusion for users.
synaptic and sources.list is all you need.
the terminal is the ace up your sleeve.