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GNU, GPL, Open Source Terry Hancock offers a detailed dissection of the critical difference between power and freedom when it comes to understanding why Microsoft and GNU/Linux respectively are playing different games - and freedom is the only game in town for the free software. Read the full story at Freesoftware Magazine
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RE: One nice point ...
by StaubSaugerNZ on Wed 6th Aug 2008 01:50 UTC in reply to "One nice point ..."
StaubSaugerNZ
Member since:
2007-07-13

Well, I kind of got lost in the middle of the article, but I did want to highlight one thing:

Freedom cannot be forced on people. Freedom to choose GNU/Linux means also the freedom to choose Windows as well. We can argue that it's a bad deal, but we don’t have the right to force people to choose one over the other. Nor should we pass value judgements on them for their choice: we don't know the basis of their decisions, nor can we claim superior knowledge of their business.

Stallman, are you reading this ? ;)


<sarcasm>Yes, we shouldn't pass judgements on people who choose to use unsafe electrical equipment, or who choose to drink too much, or who litter, or who ... <add stupid idea here>. </sarcasm>

What a crock of sh!t. Everyone should be liable to be criticised for every foolish decision! (politely and rationally, mind you). Allowing 'sacred cows' or political correctness stop intelligent criticsm stiffles both individual and human progress.

For the maladjusted freaks out there - neither is this an excuse for trolling.

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RE[2]: One nice point ...
by raver31 on Wed 6th Aug 2008 05:17 in reply to "RE: One nice point ..."
raver31 Member since:
2005-07-06




What a crock of sh!t. Everyone should be liable to be criticised for every foolish decision! (politely and rationally, mind you). Allowing 'sacred cows' or political correctness stop intelligent criticsm stiffles both individual and human progress.

For the maladjusted freaks out there - neither is this an excuse for trolling.


Exactly. All these namby-panby, lily-livered, pussy-mouthed, shit for brains do-gooders have completely screwed up life in the UK.

"Social Workers" put pressure on the government to get smacking banned, there is no discipline in schools and there is rampant knife crime.

Some parts of the UK, (leicester, sheffeild, north london), and more dangerous than chicago, la, and miami in terms of your chances of getting stabbed.

Kids do not understand the differences between right and wrong. This needs to change.

Same as the original post. If someone I know goes out and buys Vista, then has problems with it... but keeps it on as it "looks better than XP". I will slap him for being a retard.

People need to be shown the errors of their ways.

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Whats That There Member since:
2005-09-21

Retard is such a strong word.
Could you not have said, hmm, INEXPERIENCED ?

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RE[3]: One nice point ...
by Karitku on Wed 6th Aug 2008 07:23 in reply to "RE[2]: One nice point ..."
Karitku Member since:
2006-01-12

Indeed everyone should have right to shoot Freetard by law. I think Microsoft would have enough money to oil UK politics atleast for this, I mean it's a good start.

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RE[3]: One nice point ...
by abraxas on Wed 6th Aug 2008 11:49 in reply to "RE[2]: One nice point ..."
abraxas Member since:
2005-07-07

Some parts of the UK, (leicester, sheffeild, north london), and more dangerous than chicago, la, and miami in terms of your chances of getting stabbed.


That may be true but you have a much higher chance of getting shot in Chicago or Miami. Also Chicago and Miami are middle of the pack when it comes to murder rate as compared to the places you mention in the UK where the murder rate is very high compared to the rest of the country. The small city that I live in has a higher murder rate than Chicago and Miami. "Rampant" crime is in the eye of the beholder I guess.

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RE[2]: One nice point ...
by BluenoseJake on Wed 6th Aug 2008 11:06 in reply to "RE: One nice point ..."
BluenoseJake Member since:
2005-08-11

Comparing using Windows to any of the crap you mentioned is just stupid. Alienating people by comparing them to alcoholics or idiots is not going to win OSS any supporters, and it might lose some

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RE[3]: One nice point ...
by StaubSaugerNZ on Wed 6th Aug 2008 18:54 in reply to "RE[2]: One nice point ..."
StaubSaugerNZ Member since:
2007-07-13

Comparing using Windows to any of the crap you mentioned is just stupid. Alienating people by comparing them to alcoholics or idiots is not going to win OSS any supporters, and it might lose some


I agree with you - although a little hyperbole is a staple of rhetoric. It depends subtly on the manner you do it and the relationship you have with that person. You'll note I didn't actually do any such comparison, Windows <-> Linux, since they each have their place.

What I was trying to say, but probably didn't accurately convey, to the earlier poster is that while you can respect people's choices it doesn't mean that choice should be immune from critical analysis. Which was his principle assertion.

Back to O/Ses. If someone found that (heaven forbid!) Linux was giving them grief I'd be disappointed if you didn't question their choice and try to point out the merits of Windows. Likewise, I'd hope you'd expect the reciprocal to occur if they were having trouble with a decision to install Vista.

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