Linked by Amjith Ramanujam on Fri 15th Aug 2008 05:18 UTC
Linux InformationWeek is speculating on how Linux will change in the next four years. "By 2012 the OS will have matured into three basic usage models. Web-based apps rule, virtualization is a breeze, and command-line hacking for basic system configuration is a thing of the past."
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RE[6]: *shrugs*
by kaiwai on Fri 15th Aug 2008 16:06 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: *shrugs*"
kaiwai
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2005-07-06

Well, I did check the bugzilla entry. I do suggest you to check it also. The two bugs remaining in order to clear that bugzilla entry (it's not even a bug entry, it's just a pointer for several bugs that hopefully will get addressed soon) are https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14639 and https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13539. The first one is memory leak with X.org compiled against DBUS on Debian system. The latter one is that in some cases you have to apply XKB settings 3 times before it works. Neither of those are _severe_ bugs. But, you were talking about _serious_ bugs and issues. What are those?

I am not saying bugs are good at all, but every software has those. There is no software without a single bug. And the 2 I found aren't that severe, mostly likely they'll get fixed soon.


http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NjA3Mg

and there have been numerous other articles written on the sad state of Xorg, along with the sad state of GTK+.

In the case of CUPS, yes, they are. CUPS isn't distributed without any drivers, and there wouldn't even be any point in that. Go and check for yourself, OSX uses CUPS and the drivers provided with it. There might be some proprietary additions there too, but most likely those are available for Linux also if you are willing to use proprietary ones.


Bullshit. The drivers I use with my printer are NOT bundled with CUPS, so there for:

Backend =! drivers

The backend PROVIDE the infrastructure for the DRIVERS to hook into, it does NOT provide the drivers, that is *WHY* there is the Gutenprint project, along with foomatic and so on.

Do some bloody reading on the matter for once.

But you were talking about general media CODEC support. One codec doesn't equal every other codecs. And to this specific thing I don't have much to say, I have always been able to play AAC files without issues but that's where my experience with them ends.


I used the example of AAC for the CODEC issue; the fact that you can't even be bothered to extrapolate that one example over the whole range of formats that need supporting tells me you don't read, you browse and fire off half baked crap that doesn't make any sense what so ever.

Well...like you did promise to buy Mac for the guy who couldn't afford it himself? ;) It's sad you have such a bad memory!


It was a flippant remark you dickhead.

Edited 2008-08-15 16:07 UTC

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RE[7]: *shrugs*
by WereCatf on Fri 15th Aug 2008 16:51 in reply to "RE[6]: *shrugs*"
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2006-02-15

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NjA3Mg

and there have been numerous other articles written on the sad state of Xorg, along with the sad state of GTK+.


Again, didn't see any mention of those serious bugs you mentioned. And that article is almost a year old now, too. And GTK+ is a GUI-toolkit, doesn't have anything to do with X.

Bullshit. The drivers I use with my printer are NOT bundled with CUPS, so there for:

Didn't say ALL drivers are part of CUPS.

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RE[8]: *shrugs*
by kaiwai on Fri 15th Aug 2008 17:05 in reply to "RE[7]: *shrugs*"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

Didn't say ALL drivers are part of CUPS.


No, yous tated that drivers were bundled with it; there are no drivers bundled with it - that is why you have ghostscript, guntenprint, etc, etc.

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RE[7]: *shrugs*
by El_Exigente on Sat 16th Aug 2008 13:11 in reply to "RE[6]: *shrugs*"
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2007-01-08

Looking at http://www.osnews.com/comments/19643 we see that Kaiwai's full quote is "You're complaining about a piddle $1200? geeze, if I was over there, I'd buy you the damn thing; $1200 is chump change. If you can't afford it, maybe it speaks highly of stupid decisions you made in your life which results in the lack of cash flow today."

That's not a "flippant remark". That is a despicable statement that could only have come from a despicable person. In fact, it reminds me of the Social Darwinists as portrayed by, for example, Dickens, who considered that charity was evil because it attempted to counteract the workings of Nature, and that a person of "inferior wealth and social position" was that way as the result of actually being inferior. And of course how can one not recall what the notorious robber-baron John D.Rockefeller said, of his wealth: that is was God's way of saying "This is my beloved son, in whom I am well pleased".
You might think that you are smarter and better than anyone whose "cash flow" is not up to your standards, but the only person who could possibly believe that, is you.

Edited 2008-08-16 13:12 UTC

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