Linked by Amjith Ramanujam on Mon 15th Sep 2008 20:43 UTC, submitted by Alexander Yerenkow
PC-BSD This release marks a milestone for PC-BSD, by moving to the latest FreeBSD 7-Stable and also incorporating the KDE 4.1.1 desktop. Users will immediately notice the improved visual interface that KDE 4.1.1 offers, as well as a large improvement in hardware support and speed from the update to FreeBSD 7-Stable. PC-BSD 7 also offers a large and growing library of self-contained PBI files available for installation, and improvments for other locales on our PBI Directory website. This release also offers new methods of installation, including a DVD, USB and Internet/network install. Note: Here is an interview with the lead developer of PC-BSD.
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Interesting
by Xaero_Vincent on Tue 16th Sep 2008 01:36 UTC
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2006-08-18

PC-BSD is an interesting idea but I dislike the PBI system because I heard it doesn't manage dependencies (potentially having multiple versions of the same library installed).

I might try it but here are the questions:

1) Is there a stable Flash 9 plug-in for FreeBSD Firefox? Can Mono Moonlight (Silverlight) plug-in be compiled for FreeBSD Firefox?

2) Are there native drivers for my Broadcom 4311-based WLAN?

3) Is there a GUI ports manager front-end instead of the PBI installer?

Edited 2008-09-16 01:37 UTC

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RE: Interesting
by Clinton on Tue 16th Sep 2008 01:50 in reply to "Interesting"
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2005-07-05

Why not try it and see?

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RE[2]: Interesting
by sbergman27 on Tue 16th Sep 2008 02:32 in reply to "RE: Interesting"
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2005-07-24

Why not try it and see?

Because he has some good questions that deserve upfront answers before he wastes time messing with it.

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RE: Interesting
by rycamor on Tue 16th Sep 2008 03:04 in reply to "Interesting"
rycamor Member since:
2005-07-18

PC-BSD is an interesting idea but I dislike the PBI system because I heard it doesn't manage dependencies (potentially having multiple versions of the same library installed).

I might try it but here are the questions:

1) Is there a stable Flash 9 plug-in for FreeBSD Firefox? Can Mono Moonlight (Silverlight) plug-in be compiled for FreeBSD Firefox?


There is a Flash 9 (Adobe) plugin, but it requires the Linux compatibility layer and the Linux version of Mozilla/Firefox in order to work. While this is no problem and is handled automatically by ports install, Flash 9 is still fairly unstable on FreeBSD.

Notice that PCBSD uses the swfdec library for Flash, which actually works fairly well for a fairly large subset of Flash out there (including Youtube, which is about my only reason to have Flash at all), but does not support some of the latest and most complex Flash movies.

2) Are there native drivers for my Broadcom 4311-based WLAN?


This page (section 4.6.3) explains why there is not likely to be: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/compatibility-...
Some hardware companies who refuse to release specs are at least willing to make drivers for Linux, but very few are willing to bother with BSD support. Personally, for the reasons given, I avoid Broadcom devices when at all possible. FreeBSD supports a nice list of wireless devices: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/7.0R/hardware.html#WLAN

3) Is there a GUI ports manager front-end instead of the PBI installer?


There are several, the most well-known being the DesktopBSD front end (/usr/ports/sysutils/desktopbsd-tools) ironically from PCBSD's competitor, the DesktopBSD project ( www.desktopbsd.net ). However, the command-line tools for BSD ports are outstandingly simple to use and understand, especially if you install portsnap and portupgrade. Also, there is a whole section of ports for ports management software (/usr/ports/ports-mgmt/).

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RE[2]: Interesting
by sbergman27 on Tue 16th Sep 2008 04:05 in reply to "RE: Interesting"
sbergman27 Member since:
2005-07-24

This page (section 4.6.3) explains why there is not likely to be: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/compatibility-...
Some hardware companies who refuse to release specs are at least willing to make drivers for Linux, but very few are willing to bother with BSD support.

That page says that because Broadcom refuses to make documentation available, it is nearly impossible to write a driver. Nearly impossible is a different thing than completely impossible. Linux's Broadcom 43xx driver was reverse engineered, is open source, and works quite well... all without Broadcom's help. My notebook has a 4318 and has been well supported for 2+ years. Surely the hardest part of writing a FreeBSD driver has already been done by the Linux devs.

Edited 2008-09-16 04:09 UTC

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