Linked by Amjith Ramanujam on Sun 21st Sep 2008 06:46 UTC, submitted by Rahul
Linux Greg KH, Linux kernel developer delivered a keynote in the Linux plumbing conference about the health of the ecosystem. His message was essentially that distributions that don't contribute to the ecosystem have to rely on the whims of others which is unhealthy for them. Here is an introduction the development model and some interesting statistics about the Linux kernel code. Update by TH: Rebuttals are appearing all over the web, like this one by Canonical's Matt Zimmerman ("He's refuting a claim which has, quite simply, never been made. [...] When this sort of thing happens on mailing lists, it's called trolling."), or this one by another Canonical employee, Dustin Kirkland.
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RE: Rebuttals
by KAMiKAZOW on Sun 21st Sep 2008 13:01 UTC in reply to "Rebuttals"
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2005-07-06

Kirkland also writes that "Canonical and Ubuntu actively contribute to GNOME and KDE, as well as dozens of other open source projects". However, he doesn't back up this claim with numbers

Of course he doesn't, because he knows that Ubuntu/Cannonical is obviously not the only distributor that contributes to KDE and GNOME. I compared in another posting the number of contributors to KDE from Cannonical and Novell. Cannonical has 3, maybe 4, and Novell has 18. Nokia/Trolltech also sponsors several KDE developers, not to mention all those people who work on Qt.
I don't know how many KDE developers are employed by Mandriva.
I'm not following the GNOME development closely, but it seems to me that the majority of contributions come from Red Hat. GTK is currently mostly in the hands of Imendio. See http://www.gtk.org/development.html

As I said before: I'm not bashing Cannonical. I think every contribution is great no matter how small or big it is.
Having Cannonical among the FOSS sponsors is great. Cannonical employees just shouldn't pissed when somebody compares their team to another team.

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RE[2]: Rebuttals
by AdamW on Sun 21st Sep 2008 17:46 in reply to "RE: Rebuttals"
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2005-07-06

"I don't know how many KDE developers are employed by Mandriva."

For the record, I believe it's three. But then we have a far smaller budget than Canonical.

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RE[3]: Rebuttals
by Morty on Sun 21st Sep 2008 18:42 in reply to "RE[2]: Rebuttals"
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2005-07-06

"I don't know how many KDE developers are employed by Mandriva."

For the record, I believe it's three. But then we have a far smaller budget than Canonical.


Small or not, I'd say it's extremely well used. With one of those developers being Laurent Montel. There are not many weeks the last two or three years he is not among the top five developers on the KDE commit statistics.

Not that one can expect that most are able to contribute to upstream like that, but it clearly show that budget size are not all that important when it comes to working with the comunity.

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RE[3]: Rebuttals
by segedunum on Sun 21st Sep 2008 22:52 in reply to "RE[2]: Rebuttals"
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2005-07-06

For the record, I believe it's three. But then we have a far smaller budget than Canonical.

More than Canonical then, and you have the stalwart Laurent Montel who really is a KDE person through-and-through. Not that that reflects on Jonathan Riddell, but the guy clearly could use a lot more help.

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RE[3]: Rebuttals
by cdude on Mon 22nd Sep 2008 20:47 in reply to "RE[2]: Rebuttals"
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2008-09-21

Also for the record; its one from Canonical.

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