Linked by David Adams on Wed 24th Sep 2008 22:44 UTC, submitted by snydeq
Talk, Rumors, X Versus Y Linux Foundation Executive Director Jim Zemlin has said it is time for Solaris to simply move out of the way and yield the future to Linux. 'The future is Linux and Microsoft Windows. It is not Unix or Solaris,' he claims, contending that Sun's strength in long-lifecycle apps is giving way to Linux, as evidenced by the rise of Web apps, where Linux holds a decided advantage, Zemlin claims. With capabilities such as ZFS and DTrace, Sun is trying to compete based on minor features, he says. 'That's literally like noticing the view from a third-story building as it burns to the ground.'
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Kebabbert
Member since:
2007-07-27

As long as these scenarios happens, Solaris will not die. It will be used instead of Linux when there is serious work to do. Maybe if Linux catch up technically Solaris will die.

http://lethargy.org/~jesus/archives/77-Choosing-Solaris-10-over-Lin...

There was an article where a guy explained why Linux is a bad solution for file server (for instance, Linux can not satisfy a band backup band width, whereas as Solaris can satisfy the bandwidth need for the tape backup). Cant find the article though.





Another thing. For super computers, Linux is the prefered choice because it is easier and less complex than Solaris to tailor to a specific need. But Linux scales very badly in ordinary everyday usage as many can testify.
http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=8769

But for a very specific need, such as number crunching, Linux can be fine. Of course you could tailor Solaris to number crunching too, but that would be complex. Linux has a simpler structure, uses a more naive approach and easier to understand and modify. Easy to rip out the unnecessary parts not need for number crunching. The hallmark of naive solutions is they are easy to understand and implement but scales badly. Compare bubble sort to quicksort for instance. Solaris is more sophisticated, evolved under long time. Kernighan (or another guru) said about the Linux code, that it wasnt that good.

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Windows Sucks Member since:
2005-11-10

Solaris will never "Die" Nor will SCO Unix or HP-UX or AIX.

But if you looks at market reports it just doesn't look good for Solaris. Sorry to say.

1. Ubuntu beat Solaris in the 2007 - 2008 Server uptime reliability report (Done by the yankee group.) Ouch. http://www.iaps.com/2008-server-reliability-survey.html

2. Linux has a bigger market share then Solaris. Just like with Windows saying its not as good as Solaris wont stop it from being popular.

3. In devices, phones, set top boxes, PC's, Servers, Super computers, web hosting etc. Linux is every place, Solaris is no place.

The fact is you can say Solaris is better then Linux, better then Windows. In the end Windows and Linux have the market share and Solaris is losing what it had.

In the end Linux will be the king of the NX's and that is just fact. Solaris is not making a come back or some crap like that and ZFS, Zones, DTrace will not save it. Solaris will have it's nitch place like BSD and SCO unix.

It will always be "better" then Linux just will never again have the market share.

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Kebabbert Member since:
2007-07-27

We all seem to agree that Solaris is technically superior. We all seem to agree that Linux has a bigger market share. We also know that the best technology is not necessary the winner (Windows is a winner, with lousy technology. VHS vs Betamax. etc). Therefore, Linux might come out as the winner in the long run. I think the Linux camp, hopes that Solaris is abandoned and all Solaris high tech features are given to Linux. Then Unix will have the market share that Linux has, with Solaris technology. This is what the Linux camp hope, I suspect.



Another thing about up time. Ive seen reports that say that Windows have better up time than Unix. The reports are of no great value. Also, Solaris tend to drive big complex applications whereas it is very easy to make a Linux webserver doing a simple trivial thing. Lots of Linux servers doing simple things => good uptime. Even Windows will do great for simple things. That is the reason Windows had a better up time, I suspect.

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