Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 28th Oct 2008 23:40 UTC
Windows I've been running Windows Vista Ultimate on my Acer Aspire One netbook (with 1.5GB of RAM, and a 30GB hard drive) for a while now, without any problems or performance issues. I have the full Aero Glass experience, and I didn't need to do any performance tweaking or fiddling with services. I even made a few very crappy videos to show it all off. Apparently, Steven Sinofsky thinks Vista - and therefore, Windows 7 - can run just fine on a netbook too, and that's why he demonstrated Windows 7 running on a netbook this morning during the Windows 7 keynote. In an interview with Ars he gave a little more details.
Thread beginning with comment 335438
To view parent comment, click here.
To read all comments associated with this story, please click here.
RE[2]: the last part...
by spiderman on Wed 29th Oct 2008 09:57 UTC in reply to "RE: the last part..."
spiderman
Member since:
2008-10-23

Starcraft is the top of the platinum list in wine app db:
http://appdb.winehq.org/
It means that it runs flawlessly. Is there really a performance hit on your 900? There shouldn't. On my desktop at least, it runs just as fast or faster than on Windows.

Anyway, puppy linux does just what you describe. By default, it does commit your changes every half an hour to the pup_save file. You can have several pup_save files and use them to create several branches where you commit some different changes.

Edited 2008-10-29 09:58 UTC

Reply Parent Score: 2

RE[3]: the last part...
by MamiyaOtaru on Wed 29th Oct 2008 12:45 in reply to "RE[2]: the last part..."
MamiyaOtaru Member since:
2005-11-11

Yes, there is a performance hit. Each frame displayed has to be translated from the 8 bits (256 colors) it runs at to whatever bit depth your x server is using (16 or 24 most likely - unfortunately 8 bit doesn't work).

This is done on the GPU where possible, using shaders. Otherwise it's done on the CPU. This is slow. My old Athlon 1400 couldn't do it fast enough until I applied the DirectDrawRenderer opengl registry key which let it use the GPU. Unfortunately the eee's integrated intel decelerator can't do it, and the CPU can't do it fast enough.

That platinum rating means everything works, and it does (aside from some battlenet menu issues, which the platinum rater overlooked). Most modern computers will have either a sufficient GPU or CPU to get Starcraft running in wine with no slowdown, but the eee has neither. It's close but ~70% doesn't do it (it runs with no errors, just slow). Perhaps wine will implement a DIB engine someday and then it will work at full speed even on the eee. I'll keep checking.

***
Thanks for the info on Puppy Linux. That's close to what I want, but it is sort of missing the essential ingredient of not writing to the SSD at all unless I want. Unless the pup_save file can be stored on a tmpfs and the changes written to / when desired? I guess that could do it. I figured it was possible (someone must have done something like that) so thanks for the heads up. Next I'll want to know if it can be done with Debian ;)

Edited 2008-10-29 12:53 UTC

Reply Parent Score: 2

RE[4]: the last part...
by spiderman on Wed 29th Oct 2008 13:03 in reply to "RE[3]: the last part..."
spiderman Member since:
2008-10-23

Does the performance hit apply if you use a 8bit X server? If not, why not spawn a new X server with a 8bit layout for Starcraft?

Edit: You can tell puppylinux not to save to the pup_file at all, to save only at shutdown, to save periodically or directly. Bu default, it saves periodically, but just change the PUPMODE environment variable and you have what you want.
It is certainly possible on debian, but you have to do all the work they have done on puppy yourself I'm afraid. It involves using unionfs, tmpfs and squashfs.

Edited 2008-10-29 13:22 UTC

Reply Parent Score: 1

RE[4]: the last part...
by protoz on Wed 29th Oct 2008 13:38 in reply to "RE[3]: the last part..."
protoz Member since:
2008-04-28

I've been running Starcraft through wine on a Pentium 3 Compaq laptop with a junk video card and 768mb ram for months now. That's without tweaking anything either. I've played some LAN matches with my room mate but not battle.net. I'd like a desk instead of my couch if I were to play competitively.

Are netbooks really THAT slow that a P3 can out perform it?

Reply Parent Score: 1