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freedom? freedom for businesses to do whatever they like, at the expense of the "people". Sorry, I think of the people first, business last. A business NEVER has individualistic rights, and nor should it, because it cannot EVER be trusted with that. It's bad enough that business bloody interferes with governmental decisions, something that if any politician had a backbone, they'd be getting rid of. Our politicians ONLY pander to business.
As an example, the US 700 odd billion dollar bailout of rich *unts. *uck 'em. Let them sink. It was their own greed, and their own screwups that led them lending money to people who could never afford to pay back the loans that has caused this issues. It is well known that CEOs etc got hefty pay rises depending on how many loans were made, not how many were feasible. As a direct result of this, when the US economy goes South, it *ucks up the rest of the world.
I'm proudly extreme left, anti capitalism, anti US because those are the values that I believe in. I'm not some lemming who's been brainwashed like the rest of you poor bastards.
Dave
Right because government control works so well everywhere it's ever been tried. There is a reason Socialist countries like the USSR and China under Mao fail and collapse on themselves because governments are incapable of doing much of anything correctly. Market economies are better, including those severly hampered by regulation like every economy currently in existence. Please realize that there does not exist a single country in the world with a free market economy because they are all mixed economies now minus a few socialist relics like Cuba and North Korea. Although even those countries keep themselves from starving through black markets in basic products and services. If you want to understand why government does not work I suggest you read Socialism by Ludwig von Mises written in 1922 which accurately predicted why and how the Soviet Union would collapse economically. It also explains what function prices perform in the economy.
You know you don't have to buy Apple products. There are a lot of alternatives out there. I don't buy Apple products and I get along just fine.
I'm surprised that your views are so one-sided (considering recent world events). So, Socialism never works, even though your government is nationalizing financial institutions left, right and centre (Freddie Mac, Mannie Mae, etc etc).
Yep, it's clear that market economies are better...until they f#&k things up and go running to the government for a hand-out.
Live by the sword...and then go and hide behind mom when things get too tough.
It looks like the discussion of whether the state should be involved in business or not has been started in areas other than financial&mortage market!
State intervention isn't evil.
Yes, the state can be misused and even be brought down to its knees that's right but the state can never be as greedy and selfish and egoist centric as an individual and their respective businesses!
Not that I am defending Apple here, but if you don't want to use their product, cause you don't agree with their practices, then don't. They are a niche player anyways. I think they are entitled to having their embedded devices (iphone, ipod, AppleTV) as open or as closed as they want.
Full disclosure: I do not use any Apple product. Nor should any student such as me, who are always constrained for cash.





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Yeah, well. There's a reason why I've been saying that Apple is a bastard company, a far worse monopolist than Microsoft has EVER been. EULAs should be made illegal, and all contracts should be set by a government body. In fact, business should be solely controlled by governments, and not by rick pricks like Steve Jobs.
I give us 50 years max. to continue on the same path of capitalism and government structure before it all collapses.
Dave