Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 25th Nov 2008 21:57 UTC, submitted by Moulinneuf
Legal As most of you will know, Microsoft is currently involved in a class-action lawsuit about the company possibly misleading its customers about which computers could run Windows Vista. The story goes that when Microsoft delayed Windows Vista they allowed computers makers to label existing stock as "Vista Capable", even though these computers could only run the basic, Aero Glass-less version of Vista. The most recent development is that Microsoft's CEO Steve Ballmer will be questioned under oath.
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RE[3]: It's true
by DrillSgt on Wed 26th Nov 2008 04:17 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: It's true"
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"Just a side note though, the min specs for Vista is 512MB of ram but stickers were put on 256MB also."

Well, that case would be the OEM's fault for labeling computers not meeting the specs as meeting them.

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RE[4]: It's true
by Moulinneuf on Wed 26th Nov 2008 06:28 in reply to "RE[3]: It's true"
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from :

Friday, a judge in the "Vista Capable" lawsuit against Microsoft Corporation unsealed never before presented e-mails that Hewlett-Packard Company executives had sent to Microsoft. The electronic documents showed HP execs utter annoyance at the fact that Microsoft certified computers using Intel's 915 graphics chipset as compatible with their 2007 operating system Windows Vista, although the chipset did not fully support Vista's new driver model.

Senior vice president of HP's consumer business unit Richard Walker stated in one of the aforementioned e-mails, which he had sent to co-presidents-at that time-of Microsoft's platforms and services unit Jim Allchin and Kevin Johnson, that Microsoft had displayed an upsetting lack of commitment to HP as a partner. Moreover, Walker also said that the decision to certify Intel's chipset had rendered them to lose a large amount of money.

This is not the first incident of the like that has happened during the "Vista Capable" lawsuit, since earlier this Thursday, federal judge Marsha Pechman also unsealed some letters that claimed Microsoft had become more lenient with Vista's technical standards so as to lend a hand to computer manufactures such as Intel, which were running the 915 chipset.

Court filings of the legal action against Microsoft read that consumers were deceived by the company, rendering the latter to buy less expensive computers produced by HP competitors, because even though they did not support Vista's full version, they were deemed capable of running the new driver model due to the more relaxed requirements. Consequently, HP lost major ground in terms of computer sales to Intel and other PC makers whose products did not properly support Windows Vista.


"We did not use some geeked out or custom built PC. We used an HP Pavilion DV2500. It had 2GB of RAM and was running an Intel Core 2 Duo CPU T7500 @ 2.20GHz. The OS was a 32 bit version of Windows Vista Ultimate."

Edited 2008-11-26 06:30 UTC

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RE[4]: It's true
by Moulinneuf on Wed 26th Nov 2008 06:36 in reply to "RE[3]: It's true"
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Court documents show that Ballmer capitulated on specifications for what would qualify as a "Vista Capable" PC, an important designation around which Microsoft would craft a marketing campaign. Initially, Computerworld reports, Mr. Softy held the line -- demanding that "Vista Capable" hardware include advanced graphics chips. So Hewlett-Packard (NYSE: HPQ) prepared as Dell (Nasdaq: DELL) resisted.

But then Intel (Nasdaq: INTC) complained. The line disappeared shortly thereafter, emails show.

HP's management and some of Microsoft's top engineers fumed at the decision, including Jim Allchin, who led the development of Vista at the executive ranks. "I am beyond being upset here," Allchin wrote to Ballmer in an email released by the court. "This was totally mismanaged by Intel and Microsoft. What a mess. Now we have an upset partner, Microsoft's destroyed credibility, as well as my own credibility shot."

Allchin retired from Microsoft on the day of Vista's release. Dell has chosen to allow some PC customers to choose Windows XP over Vista. And Intel -- the longtime partner to which Mr. Softy yielded -- has refused to upgrade its own PCs to Vista.

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RE[5]: It's true
by lemur2 on Thu 27th Nov 2008 01:26 in reply to "RE[4]: It's true"
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Allchin retired from Microsoft on the day of Vista's release.

Then Allchin's credibility is well & truly intact.

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