Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 24th Dec 2008 20:49 UTC, submitted by judgen
Legal The legal back-and-forth between PsyStar and Apple is slowly but surely moving into the twilight zone. Not too long ago we had Apple going all black helicopter on PsyStar claiming people and/or companies other than PsyStar are involved in the clone maker's unlawful practices, even though Apple could so far not name any of them because, well, they don't know who they are yet. If that wasn't enough, PsyStar now claims that Apple's copyright on Mac OS X is invalid.
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Hussein
Member since:
2008-11-22

Using Mac OS X isn't a right! It's a privilege! If you want OS X buy a Mac.
The real question is why would you want to use such an OS, when better options exist like Windows XP and Windows Vista, or the free option (Linux) for people who care about money?

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TheIdiotThatIsMe Member since:
2006-06-17

Using Mac OS X isn't a right!

It is if you pay for it. Through Pystar, you DO pay for Mac OS X. The real question is does Apple have the right to limit how you use it after you've paid for it, and also whether or not Pystar broke copyright by intentionally altering/fooling/bypassing/whatever part of the OS.

...when better options exist like Windows XP and Windows Vista...

That is completely subjective. While one person may argue that Windows is a better option, another may argue that Mac OS is a better option. In the end they may both be right (or wrong), because really it's up to the end user as to what's best for them. Same goes for Linux.

In the end, it's not a privilege, but an option. And when a company attempts to limit a consumers options for it's own gain, you may run into problems.

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Hussein Member since:
2008-11-22

You do know that anyone who buys a retail copy of OS X is assumed to own a Mac, and thus is buying an upgrade, when Apple starts selling Macs without Mac OS X pre-installed, then your claim (or Psystar's) makes sense.

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UltraZelda64 Member since:
2006-12-05

Using Mac OS X isn't a right! It's a privilege! If you want OS X buy a Mac.
The real question is why would you want to use such an OS, when better options exist like Windows XP and Windows Vista, or the free option (Linux) for people who care about money?

Wow. Just... wow. What the hell are you talking about?

And I'd really hate to burst your bubble, but my first "real" computer (a '97 Gateway 2000 machine with Windows 95) was the introduction that really sparked my interest in computers (sorry... the previous Apple IIe with DOS doesn't count), and I've been a Windows user until just a couple years ago. It ended with Windows XP for various reasons, including:

1) Microsoft's seemingly increasing lack of care for their own users with preference towards the mega "entertainment" corporations (one word/abbreviation: DRM).

2) Their insistence to attempt to kill off what worked, and worked quite well I might add (Windows XP), and try to force Vista onto PC users like they've never forced an "upgrade" before. It seemed like an eternity that they held back even the slightest hint of an SP3 of XP, for example, while they were busy trying to force Vista down people's throats.

3) My increasing knowledge of what they, as a company, have done in the past, and increasing skepticism of them as a result.

4) The realization that there are, in fact, "better" alternatives to their OSes available, and even free of charge.


What this all means is that, as a longtime Windows user, I've given up with Microsoft starting with Vista. I'm currently a Linux user, but BSD, Solaris, Haiku, and possibly even Mac OS X are not out of the question. So, I'm not quite sure what you mean when saying that Windows XP and (*gasp*) Vista are better. They're exactly what I'm running from.

Edited 2008-12-25 03:30 UTC

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Hussein Member since:
2008-11-22

The only reason OS X 'just works' is because it doesn't support as much hardware variations as Windows.
Windows Vista works trouble-free if you run it on proper hardware, if yo are trying to run Windows on crappy hardware, you are bound to have issues.

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Bobthearch Member since:
2006-01-27

Using Mac OS X isn't a right! It's a privilege!


Using OSX is a "right" if you paid for it.

Edited 2008-12-25 07:47 UTC

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Doc Pain Member since:
2006-10-08

Using OSX is a "right" if you paid for it.


The following question could be: Has PsyStar the right to distribute / re-sell mac OS X? It's obvious that they got it from Apple by paying for it, so it's not a pirated copy they offer. As it has been mentioned before, it's valid to say that the customer pays for Mac OS X through PsyStar. A question in court could be if this right is included...

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