Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 30th Dec 2008 21:29 UTC
While solid state drives are very well suited for netbooks from a power efficiency viewpoint, they pose problems when it comes to capacity (and performance, but that's another matter). In order to combat this issue, MSI has launched a new netbook with a hybrid approach to storage: it has a solid state drive for the operating system and applications, and a conventional hard drive for storage.
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RE[4]: Performance probs will be gone soonish
by tomcat on Sat 3rd Jan 2009 08:23
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Nice try. See, I have an Asus eeePC 701, and use it just about everyday. It's quite a useful little thing. But there's no way I'd pay over $500 CDN for one, no matter how fast the CPU/SSD was.
Quite right. The reason that Netbooks are popular is primarily because of price. Once the price point rises to the same level as a low-end notebook, you might as well use the notebook -- because the notebook is actually a better deal for the money, in terms of CPU, memory, storage, display, keyboard, expansion, etc.
RE[5]: Performance probs will be gone soonish
by bornagainenguin on Sun 4th Jan 2009 06:30
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tomcat chimed in with...
Quite right. The reason that Netbooks are popular is primarily because of price. Once the price point rises to the same level as a low-end notebook, you might as well use the notebook -- because the notebook is actually a better deal for the money, in terms of CPU, memory, storage, display, keyboard, expansion, etc.
Yep a low end notebook looks to be a better deal in everything, except mobility...in which case what exactly is the point?
--bornagainpenguin
RE[4]: Performance probs will be gone soonish
by bornagainenguin on Sun 4th Jan 2009 06:27
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phoenix retorted...
Nice try. See, I have an Asus eeePC 701, and use it just about everyday. It's quite a useful little thing. But there's no way I'd pay over $500 CDN for one, no matter how fast the CPU/SSD was.
Oh, yes--I do see. No wonder you consider it a toy if you have one of the broken Celeron models! (Yes, broken--any laptop whose battery can drain dead even while off is broken in my opinion.) Not to mention the utter uselessness of a mobile device that is incapable of getting more than two hours battery life in general, but that's just me...
If you could only use one of the Atom processor models with a well setup installation of Ubuntu I think you'd probably change your mind on the value of these little laptops. It really is night and day in difference with an EeePC that can last somewhere on the average of seven or more hours use and yet can still do CPU intensive tasks.
--bornagainpenguin
RE[5]: Performance probs will be gone soonish
by phoenix on Sun 4th Jan 2009 07:58
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Member since:2005-07-11
Oh, yes--I do see. No wonder you consider it a toy if you have one of the broken Celeron models! (Yes, broken--any laptop whose battery can drain dead even while off is broken in my opinion.) Not to mention the utter uselessness of a mobile device that is incapable of getting more than two hours battery life in general, but that's just me...
Don't know what you are doing with yours if you only get 2 hours of use. I get almost 4 hours of use from mine when surfing the net, and almost 3 hours when watching tv shows on it.
If you could only use one of the Atom processor models with a well setup installation of Ubuntu
I do have a well-setup Kubuntu 8.10 installation on mine, running KDEE 4.1.
I think you'd probably change your mind on the value of these little laptops. It really is night and day in difference with an EeePC that can last somewhere on the average of seven or more hours use and yet can still do CPU intensive tasks.
That may be, but like I already said, they're still not worth $500+ CDN. Once you cross the $500 mark, the price overcomes any portability factors. There's just no way to justify spending over $500 on a netbook.
When you get into the $500-800 price range, most people's justification is "I need the CPU power/RAM space/screen space that the larger/faster netbooks have". Well, if you need all that power, why are looking at netbooks? For the same price, you can get a lot more CPU/RAM/screen in a laptop.
You have to balance portability, price, and performance. For me, the tipping point between netbook/laptop is $500. For you, it seems to be a lot higher. For others, a lot lower.
Edited 2009-01-04 08:06 UTC
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"Except price. You want a faster SSD, you have to pay a higher price, which could push it out of the inexpensive range, and make it a poor seller. Anything over $300 is really hard to justify, even with such high portability, and if you're going to spend over $500, you may as well just get a laptop.
I see you're one of those people who are unable to see something with the size, portability, and price--yes price-- of these devices as anything other than a toy.
Too bad for you, you're going to be missing out on a lot of fun and useful stuff by persisting in this error. "
Nice try. See, I have an Asus eeePC 701, and use it just about everyday. It's quite a useful little thing. But there's no way I'd pay over $500 CDN for one, no matter how fast the CPU/SSD was.