Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 16th Jan 2009 08:45 UTC, submitted by stonyandcher
Features, Office Yesterday we ran a story on how educational institutions defaulting to Microsoft Office may stifle some people who do not own a copy of Office or Windows. A Forrester Research report now states the bloody obvious by claiming that organisations stick with Microsoft Word not out of necessity, but out of habit.
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RE: Sorry I disagree
by lemur2 on Fri 16th Jan 2009 09:05 UTC in reply to "Sorry I disagree"
lemur2
Member since:
2007-02-17

therefore the tender goes unread and the business is lost.


OpenOffice has a nifty feature where one can export any document to PDF.

If a company receiving a document cannot read PDF, then perhaps they really shouldn't be using computers at all.

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RE[2]: Sorry I disagree
by aliquis on Fri 16th Jan 2009 09:53 in reply to "RE: Sorry I disagree"
aliquis Member since:
2005-07-23

But it's harder when you work in groups and various people may want to edit the document in question, then pdf isn't all good longer.

But yes, I really like being able to "print to PDF" in OS X.

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jabbotts Member since:
2007-09-06

The initial reason presented was the concern of loosing business because your application for a contract can not be opened and read. A PDF export of your bid solves that problem. Why would the potential customer need to edit the bid document you presented them with?

Now, your talking about sharing unfinished documents among multiple workers. While MS has put a lot of money into gimics like Sharepoint (maybe your company is using it fully, I'd be the first I've heard of though), it still comes down to asking if the XLS is shared so more than one user can work in it (with inherent limitations) or saying "open with read/write when user finished" when told that an unshared document is currently in use.

Really, for multiple users unless you happen to be using the 10% of Office that no one touches, any editors that can work with a common format are fine. Heck, if your working with a partner organization, save the file to office2003 doc format rather than that docx crap and let the other company do what they need to.

I think the "need" for businesses to use MS Office is far more perception than anything else. It's like the "Need" to use Photoshop when your only removing red eye or cropping/resizing images. Sure, some people need the advanced features in Office and some people need the advanced features in Photoshop but it really is a minority of people when you look at the actual intended use.

Where business have a very real "need" to use Office is with legacy lockin. If you have ten years of Access and XLS based custom coding then your screwed. Nothing does VB script like MS. All your comapany forms are XLS with nifty auto-submit functions and such, well, your probably not going to justify the expense of that changeover. That is still within a single organization though, it's not imposed justification based on "a third party uses it so we have to also".

Now, I am an Excel geek. Bending databases to my will through Excel used to be how I made my money so I've been into those dark places that 75% of users won't ever realize exist. Dump database to XLS then analyze and graph, then summarize with graphs in a presentation; yeah, I have no problem admitting that Office does some things really nicely. It's not the only game in town anymore; it had that window between WordPerfect's death and OOo's continuing maturity.

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RE[3]: Sorry I disagree
by OMRebel on Fri 16th Jan 2009 21:17 in reply to "RE[2]: Sorry I disagree"
OMRebel Member since:
2005-11-14

You can edit PDF's in Open Office v3.0.

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RE[2]: Sorry I disagree
by _txf_ on Fri 16th Jan 2009 11:19 in reply to "RE: Sorry I disagree"
_txf_ Member since:
2008-03-17

Certainly. But what happens when they want to edit said document... They'd have to use adobe's crappy and expensive editor.

I have a similar situation myself. I want to write all my documents in latex, as they sometimes contain formulas, are quite lengthy (as a result are a pain to format), plus it looks damn good in comparison to anything produced by word. Unfortunately, my document gets passed to at least 2 other people who may or may not edit it. It also gets archived and others might have to edit it in the future.

All those other people use word, so I have to use word (or open office, but that gives me more trouble as every time it gets to me the formatting is F**ked in some way or another).

Edited 2009-01-16 11:21 UTC

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RE[2]: Sorry I disagree
by morglum666 on Fri 16th Jan 2009 13:42 in reply to "RE: Sorry I disagree"
morglum666 Member since:
2005-07-06

You can set this up in about 30 seconds. You install cutepdf, and off you go. Works like a normal printer with any windows program, including word.

I think you can even use it commercially for free.

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