Last week, news got out that Microsoft had been charged with breaking competition laws by the European Commission. The EU stated that Microsoft has broken competition laws because it bundles its Internet Explorer browser with Windows, which gives the browser an unfair advantage over competing browsers such as Firefox and Opera. OSNews readers debated this topic lively, and it seems we can use this story to continue the discussion: Opera Software's CEO Jon von Tetzchner joined in on the fun.
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Member since:2005-12-15
Member since:2005-10-10
How would I download Firefox without a browser of some sort by default, be it a web or ftp?
You're kidding right?
My chosen OS comes with nothing but a terminal, no browser, no ftp client, not even a mouse driver let alone a GUI. Yet here I sit typing this reply in a full blown Firefox and every other imaginable tool you could ask for on a computer. How is this possible? Must be magic?
Member since:2006-02-26
But why? Because Opera is whining and Neelie Kroes has yet to remove the bug from her butt?
This may have made more sense several years ago, when IE6 was still king, web content was languishing and security was a nightmare. But now, competition in the browser market is better than it has ever been and it's only getting better.
The fact that, out of the "major" browsers, Opera is the only one not to have a home on any of my computers says more about Opera than it does about Microsoft, IE or anything else.
Member since:2005-10-11
Why? I think as long as microsoft has a monopoly on the desktop and we all know they do. They have to play by different rules. And bundling of APPLICATIONS not core operating system functions are one of those areas where they will be different. Of the two major applications browsers and media players are the two that stand out the most. They allow miscrosoft to EXTEND their monopoly from the desktop to in the case of the browser the internet. And in the media player media like audio and video files. ie6 WAS a nightmare like you mentioned and it was the reason so many flocked to firefox and continue to do so out of loyalty.. many if not most of the users of firefox are geeks etc who fix their family and friends pcs for free and what gets installed on them of course is firefox... So basicly the only reason firefox got any momentum was ppl were almost unable to use their pc in some cases with ie... People WILL just use what comes with their pc unless it DOESNT WORK or only works with great dificulty.
Member since:2007-03-23
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2005-10-11
You do NOT need a "browser" to download applications. Maybe they could use wget it has a gui frontend for windows and they ship it with the unix utils for win anyway or curl or a million other ways it would be a gui front end with GRAPHICAL pictures (thats what the G stands for lol) with the browsers icon and short synopsis you click it or a check a box and click DOWNLOAD and there it is on your desktop
Edited 2009-01-20 00:30 UTC