Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 22nd Jan 2009 22:13 UTC
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu The Ubuntu team has released the second maintenance release for Ubuntu 8.04. "The Ubuntu team is proud to announce the release of Ubuntu 8.04.2 LTS, the second maintenance update to Ubuntu's 8.04 LTS release. This release includes updated server, desktop, and alternate installation CDs for the i386 and amd64 architectures. In all, over 200 updates have been integrated, and updated installation media has been provided so that fewer updates will need to be downloaded after installation. These include security updates and corrections for other high-impact bugs, with a focus on maintaining stability and compatibility with Ubuntu 8.04 LTS." Get it from their download page.
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Why not SP2?
by usr0 on Thu 22nd Jan 2009 23:39 UTC
usr0
Member since:
2006-10-27

WTF they do no call it "Service Pack 2" or is too Microsoft-like and everything Microsoft-like has to - per definition - bad?

The advantage would be that more people would understand that Linux uses similar development cycle concepts like Windows. More people would understand better how the Linux dev cycle works as everybody knows the SP release concept.

..it is just a detail. But if the Linux community would not blench from adopting more of such concepts from major software vendors, Linux' *general mainstream and mainstream business* success will increase.

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RE: Why not SP2?
by liamdawe on Fri 23rd Jan 2009 00:14 in reply to "Why not SP2?"
liamdawe Member since:
2006-07-04

You can't please everyone, if they used "SP2" people would say they are copying microsoft.

Besides ".2" carries on their own numbering scheme, why switch to someone elses?

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RE[2]: Why not SP2?
by ebasconp on Fri 23rd Jan 2009 01:00 in reply to "RE: Why not SP2?"
ebasconp Member since:
2006-05-09

Agree, the .2 is more obvious (to me) than SERVICE PACK 1, R2, CTP and all the names Microsoft uses to call their minor upgrades over their products.

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RE[2]: Why not SP2?
by ChrisA on Sat 24th Jan 2009 09:40 in reply to "RE: Why not SP2?"
ChrisA Member since:
2006-05-06

Can I ask what the big deal is about terminology? The one thing I hate about the Linux community is that you people like to psycho analyze everything. if you are going to sit here and try to examine, Call it a service pack/or dont call it a service pack. I have a few words of advice... Go get laid. Jesus Christ, give it a rest you people are boring.

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RE: Why not SP2?
by regomodo on Fri 23rd Jan 2009 01:04 in reply to "Why not SP2?"
regomodo Member since:
2009-01-23

lol. Is this your main issue with Linux? Do you know how many other OS' do not use a 'sp#' versioning scheme and uses #.#.# scheme instead? Solaris, HP-UX, FreeBSD, OSX, OS/2 (the list goes on).

edit. just reread your post again about "mainstream concepts". Right.

Edited 2009-01-23 01:05 UTC

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RE[2]: Why not SP2?
by jwwf on Sat 24th Jan 2009 17:03 in reply to "RE: Why not SP2?"
jwwf Member since:
2006-01-19

lol. Is this your main issue with Linux? Do you know how many other OS' do not use a 'sp#' versioning scheme and uses #.#.# scheme instead? Solaris, HP-UX, FreeBSD, OSX, OS/2 (the list goes on).

edit. just reread your post again about "mainstream concepts". Right.


Heh, HP-UX. A version number like 11i v3 update 2 is sheer poetry.

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RE: Why not SP2?
by chemical_scum on Fri 23rd Jan 2009 03:01 in reply to "Why not SP2?"
chemical_scum Member since:
2005-11-02

WTF they do no call it "Service Pack 2" or is too Microsoft-like and everything Microsoft-like has to - per definition - bad?


In addition to what everyone else has said, it is not like a Microsoft Service Pact. It is a collection of cumulative updates. If you have a fully patched and updated Hardy on your system, you already have Ubuntu 8.04.2 LTS installed. By installing the download of 8.04.2 you just avoid a very large update after the installation of the original release.

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RE[2]: Why not SP2?
by ggeldenhuys on Fri 23rd Jan 2009 06:57 in reply to "RE: Why not SP2?"
ggeldenhuys Member since:
2006-11-13

By installing the download of 8.04.2 you just avoid a very large update after the installation of the original release.

Exactly. And at least Ubuntu updates are only fixes. Microsoft uses Service Packs to introduce whole new features which many times include even more bugs!

Oh, and IBM used Fix Packs for OS/2, long before Microsoft slightly changed the name to Service Packs.

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RE: Why not SP2?
by ggeldenhuys on Fri 23rd Jan 2009 07:02 in reply to "Why not SP2?"
ggeldenhuys Member since:
2006-11-13

WTF they do no call it "Service Pack 2" or ...

Version numbers where invented for a reason. They work perfectly well, and are language independent. If you use the terms "Service Pack" or "SP" or "Release Candidate" or "RC" etc... what happens to promotional material for other non-English languages?

Version numbers make a LOT more sense!

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RE: Why not SP2?
by Soulbender on Fri 23rd Jan 2009 13:47 in reply to "Why not SP2?"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

You do know that Windows is pretty much the only OS vendor that uses the "Service Pack" version scheme, right?
I don't see many OSX, Solaris or AIX Service Packs around.

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