Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 5th Feb 2009 21:20 UTC
Hardware, Embedded Systems Netbooks have been heralded as the foot in the door for Linux. With the launch of the earliest Eee PC models, Asus made a bold move by only offering them with Linux pre-installed; Microsoft soon responded by working with Asus to bring Windows XP to the next generation Eee PCs. Since then, Windows XP gained market share in the netbook segment rapidly, casting doubts over whether or not netbooks would really turn out to be that foot in the door. HP has today announced that its new HP Mini 1000 netbook will not be available with Linux pre-installed in Europe.
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RE[2]: HP is absolutely right
by google_ninja on Fri 6th Feb 2009 04:07 UTC in reply to "RE: HP is absolutely right"
google_ninja
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2006-02-05

Not to troll or anything, but after installing the windows 7 beta, my wifi worked out of the box. Installing fedora 10, it didn't. Intel 5100 a/g/n. Better then the previous fedora, which choked on formatting my drive at install. And while Intrepid mostly works (with everything important anyways), I spent many, many hours getting WPA2 authentication working in hardy, which was only topped by the amount of time I spent getting VMWare networking to work (absolutely essential for any os I use full time)

Just because you haven't had any problems in five years doesn't mean anyone else hasn't. I tend to keep my hardware up to date, and have repeatedly run into issues in linux because of it. I couldnt even count amount of time I have spent in the last five years troubleshooting linux issues. Sure, it is mostly a hobby thing for me, and I enjoy digging deep into UNIX, so it has been mostly fun. But if you have been fine for the past five years, you have either been extremely lucky, or just not upgraded your hardware.

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RE[3]: HP is absolutely right
by raver31 on Fri 6th Feb 2009 09:11 in reply to "RE[2]: HP is absolutely right"
raver31 Member since:
2005-07-06

I too have had problems, like Atheros drivers for Ubuntu on the Aspire One, RT2500 repeatedly dropping sync on Mandriva for example.

I didn't mean it was all plain sailing. I said in the original post that MORE hardware works out of the box under Linux.

The OP was spreading the old FUD about printers/scanners/and webcams. Those problems are pretty much fixed with most newer kernels supporting v4l devices as standard, and the leaps and bounds CUPS has made.


Another point I was making was about the internet connection. It does not matter if you get the drivers from the manufacturer or from somewhere like driveragent. If you have not got an internet connection, because Windows does not support your networking hardware out of the box, then you are not going to be able to download any drivers in the first place.

I would also like to add to something Worknman said, why should they offer a Windows version and a blank version ? While it is true that the user can format and add whatever they like, what is the point of Joe User buying a blank machine ? That is going to add up to another sale for a Windows license, when the poor smoe was just looking for something for email and web browsing..... exactly why netbooks exist in the first place.

Edited 2009-02-06 09:12 UTC

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google_ninja Member since:
2006-02-05

The OP was spreading the old FUD about printers/scanners/and webcams. Those problems are pretty much fixed with most newer kernels supporting v4l devices as standard, and the leaps and bounds CUPS has made.


I'll agree the OP was trolling, which is why I was hesitant at responding. CUPS and SANE definitely cover an insane amount of hardware nowadays. (although OCR support isn't too hot)

I would also like to add to something Worknman said, why should they offer a Windows version and a blank version ? While it is true that the user can format and add whatever they like, what is the point of Joe User buying a blank machine ? That is going to add up to another sale for a Windows license, when the poor smoe was just looking for something for email and web browsing..... exactly why netbooks exist in the first place.


Because another 30-40$ on a 400$ machine to be able to use an os that is familiar to Joe is typically worth the relatively small overhead. The thing with Joe is that he hates having to spend any time learning anything he doesn't have to about computers, so the more familiar the the better, and if 40$ saves the hours he has already spent getting comfortable with windows, there is no reason for him not to pay it.

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