Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 9th Feb 2009 13:24 UTC, submitted by Michael
Benchmarks "In January we published a review of the AMD Shanghai Opteron CPUs on Linux- when we looked at four of the Opteron 2384 models. The performance of these 45nm quad-core workstation/server processors were great when compared to the earlier AMD Barcelona processors on Ubuntu Linux, but how is their performance when running Sun's OpenSolaris operating system? Up for viewing today are dual AMD Shanghai benchmarks when running OpenSolaris 2008.11, Ubuntu 8.10, and a daily build of the forthcoming Ubuntu 9.04 release."
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RE[2]: Comment by averycfay
by kaiwai on Tue 10th Feb 2009 07:48 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by averycfay"
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Thank you for the link but it doesn't change the fact that the GCC included with OpenSolaris needs to be upgraded immediately - and it should have been done years ago. This has been a known problem in Solaris and yet no one can be bothered sorting it out.

Why hasn't Sun got its act together and updated its GCC bundled with Solaris? its been a known issue for year - it isn't as though it something that has cropped up recently. They wonder why people keep going back to Linux from Solaris - the issues are right in their face, too bad they ignore then in favour of blaming the boogyman.

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RE[3]: Comment by averycfay
by pantheraleo on Tue 10th Feb 2009 15:15 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by averycfay"
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2007-03-07

> Thank you for the link but it doesn't change
> the fact that the GCC included with OpenSolaris
> needs to be upgraded immediately - and it should
> have been done years ago. This has been a known
> problem in Solaris and yet no one can be bothered
> sorting it out.

Well, arguably you shouldn't be using GCC on OpenSolaris anyway. You should be using the Sun Studio compilers, which are also free and can be installed from the package repository.

> Why hasn't Sun got its act together and updated
> its GCC bundled with Solaris?

Again... Because you should be using the Sun Studio compilers with OpenSolaris. Not GCC.

It's not a question of Sun not having their act together here. It's a question of users who switch from Linux not grokking that there are better compilers out there than GCC that they should be using instead when they switch to a different OS.

Edited 2009-02-10 15:16 UTC

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RE[4]: Comment by averycfay
by kaiwai on Tue 10th Feb 2009 15:41 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by averycfay"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

Well, arguably you shouldn't be using GCC on OpenSolaris anyway. You should be using the Sun Studio compilers, which are also free and can be installed from the package repository.


Because the Sun compiler isn't compatible with everything out there; XChat will not compile with the Sun compile unless you muck around with a setting inside one of the source code files - IIRC relating to the NTLM proxy authentication. That is one example - I'm sure there are many more out there too.

Again... Because you should be using the Sun Studio compilers with OpenSolaris. Not GCC.

It's not a question of Sun not having their act together here. It's a question of users who switch from Linux not grokking that there are better compilers out there than GCC that they should be using instead when they switch to a different OS.


People would use something other than GCC once their compiler is actually compatible with the source code out there. Yes, the code should be compliant out of the tar ball but at the same time to expect that every project should change their code so that works out of the box with the Sun Studio compiler is just ludicrous. The code is there, for better or worse, its up to Sun to get their compiler to compile code that would compile with gcc. If the code isn't compiling, all the elongated intellectual wankery regarding the superiority of Studio Compiler will be thrown out the window in frustration when someone can't get their opensource application to compile.

The aim should be that people can grab a random application with source code (that compiles on Linux and *BSD) - once it can compile out of the box and with their compilers, then they can say there has been progress. Want proof of the cl*sterf*ck that is Studio compiler, check out the patches upon patches for JDS, pkgbuild's opensource repository, and some things that just can't be built using Studio Compiler - then maybe you'll change your tune.

Edited 2009-02-10 15:46 UTC

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