Linked by weildish on Thu 12th Feb 2009 04:43 UTC
Linux Cuba recently launched its own answer to Windows this week, or, in the bigger picture, what the Cubans are calling "US Hegemony." Nova, the new open source OS being offered by the Cuban government, is being made to boot out US-based Microsoft products.
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Congrats on FidelOS 0.1 :P
by larwilliams on Thu 12th Feb 2009 07:53 UTC
larwilliams
Member since:
2007-04-03

...therefore fear that US security agencies have access to Microsoft code, also that, due to the embargo by the US, Microsoft software is hard to come by legally and difficult to update.
Windows is well known to have backdoors for the FBI and CIA and has had them for quite some time. That can be disturbing for them, as both the US government and Microsoft have been shown to have no qualms with using illegal means to achieve their ends.

I am not sure how difficult it is to come by MS software legally in Cuba, but it is difficult for anyone to update, not just our Cuban friends.

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RE: Congrats on FidelOS 0.1 :P
by raver31 on Thu 12th Feb 2009 08:04 in reply to "Congrats on FidelOS 0.1 :P"
raver31 Member since:
2005-07-06


Windows is well known to have backdoors for the FBI and CIA and has had them for quite some time.



Incorrect.

It is the NSA that has "access keys" implanted in all version of Windows since XP. The NSA have the right to spy on whatever the user is doing.

The FBI and CIA do not. They need a court approved warrant to be sent to the NSA to view access.


Back to topic;

Unlike Cuba, who fully understands the problems with proprietary operating systems, my employer, in their great wisdom, has decided to go to a fully Microsoft shop on our works computers, because, and I will quote the memo.....

"Open source software cannot be used on *********'s computer systems as anyone can alter the source code and place a virus inside.

Windows Vista or XP should be used in place of Linux or Solaris on the servers and all personal computers should be running Windows Vista.

No-one across the floor should install any product without the approval of the line manager."

The funny part was the anyone can stick a virus into the code, because anyone can view the code.

I should point out that the person who sent out the memo is a newly appointed director, he came to us from PC World.

Edited 2009-02-12 08:12 UTC

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larwilliams Member since:
2007-04-03


Incorrect.

It is the NSA that has "access keys" implanted in all version of Windows since XP. The NSA have the right to spy on whatever the user is doing.

The FBI and CIA do not. They need a court approved warrant to be sent to the NSA to view access.

access key = backdoor.

Considering how easy it is to get warrants (as the RIAA has shown), it should be easy to see why some people are concerned. Besides being an invasion of privacy, it could be used as yet another hole for criminals to use to gain personal information.

Besides, I would think a decently configured stateful firewall would block attempts to access it from outside.

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stestagg Member since:
2006-06-03

The NSA have the right to spy on whatever the user is doing.


Wrong, the NSA may have the right to spy on US users, but not any user in the world.

The FBI and CIA do not. They need a court approved warrant to be sent to the NSA to view access.


Just like wiretaps?

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larwilliams Member since:
2007-04-03

I should point out that the person who sent out the memo is a newly appointed director, he came to us from PC World.

No big surprise. From what I recall of the last time I read PC World, they are mostly still aware that there is anything other than Windows.

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angelochoa Member since:
2006-11-20

You people don't have any idea of what means to live in Cuba, free software or not. Most Cubans don't have the RIGHT ( not the possibility ) to use internet ( or many other things ). The government is not doing this because they believe in freedom ( they don't , any kind ), they are doing it because they are afraid of getting into trouble because of their use of pirated software at all levels.

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polaris20 Member since:
2005-07-06



Windows Vista or XP should be used in place of Linux or Solaris on the servers and all personal computers should be running Windows Vista.



Why would you run Vista or XP on a server? Wouldn't you run 2003 or 2008? Sounds like this new manager doesn't know a damn thing about computers, and therefore shouldn't be making any requests regarding them.

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Moulinneuf Member since:
2005-07-06

Incorrect , access key and backdoor into Microsoft OS are accesible in stores and on the street and on the internet everywhere ...

The FBI and CIA do not relly on NSA to access into anyone computers , they will get in touch with the NSA to CRACK into security code that they are unable to crack thesmelf.

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steogede2 Member since:
2007-08-17

Can you clarify, do you mean PC World magazine or something else (e.g. in the UK we have a store chain called PC World)?

I only ask because it is not clear where you are posting from - also the latter would make a lot of sense because PC World (stores) is a shop for "windows shops" (I don't know a great deal about the magazine).

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RE: Congrats on FidelOS 0.1 :P
by DrillSgt on Thu 12th Feb 2009 16:13 in reply to "Congrats on FidelOS 0.1 :P"
DrillSgt Member since:
2005-12-02

Windows is well known to have backdoors for the FBI and CIA and has had them for quite some time.



Where on earth did you get such a preposterous idea? If it is so well known, it would be against all current laws and US Federal regulations, and therefore would be shut down. Please post some type of proof in the way of links or whatever, not just conjecture.

Does this mean that the NSA has backdoors in Linux since they wrote and control SELinux??

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erikharmon Member since:
2007-06-20

Where on earth did you get such a preposterous idea?


He was off on the specifics, and it's not incontrovertible proof, but take a look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSAKEY

it would be against all current laws and US Federal regulations, and therefore would be shut down.


Hahahahaha

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Moulinneuf Member since:
2005-07-06

Actually , where the internet and computer world is concerned there are very few US law and regulations outside of property laws. Reglementation and standards are not laws ...

Your crazy talking here the FBI and CIA wil never be shut down because they break US law or regulation ... Neither does Microsoft who brought the entire USDOJ to it's knee ...

Type FBI , CIA , Microsoft , Backdoors in Google ...

The NSA did not wrote nor control SELinux ... they participated in it , not the same thing. Even then they probably have a way to crack into it , but they will go hardware instead of software.

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RE: Congrats on FidelOS 0.1 :P
by jefro on Thu 12th Feb 2009 21:34 in reply to "Congrats on FidelOS 0.1 :P"
jefro Member since:
2007-04-13

Fidel is sure a goofy dude.

Free software for NON-FREE people!

I guess dictators don't like competition.

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