Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 24th Feb 2009 10:24 UTC
Novell and Ximian Obviously, Linux vendors will not remain untouched by the economic downturn. Novell has already announced a number of lay offs, and the openSUSE Linux division has not been spared. openSUSE board members Pascal Blesser and Bryen Yunashko announced the lay offs.
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Why Opensuse?
by vivainio on Tue 24th Feb 2009 10:50 UTC
vivainio
Member since:
2008-12-26

If they are laying off 100 out of their 4200 employees, I'm wondering why they are targeting OpenSUSE developers. You'd think that among those 4200 there is a fair share of "fat" that could be cut (middle managers, old-time hangabouts), instead of getting rid of developers in the first place.

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RE: Why Opensuse?
by aunzim on Tue 24th Feb 2009 11:01 in reply to "Why Opensuse?"
aunzim Member since:
2008-07-25

This will hurt gnome, that is right now in difficult times with the gtk3 problem

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RE: Why Opensuse?
by Thom_Holwerda on Tue 24th Feb 2009 11:13 in reply to "Why Opensuse?"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

You are assuming there are no middle managers and other non-devs in the openSUSE division...?

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RE[2]: Why Opensuse?
by segedunum on Tue 24th Feb 2009 12:11 in reply to "RE: Why Opensuse?"
segedunum Member since:
2005-07-06

Like most companies such as Novell, they never lay off the people who they should lay off in the right departments - until they realise that there is no one left to do any actual work that pulls in the money.

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RE: Why Opensuse?
by ennoil on Tue 24th Feb 2009 12:25 in reply to "Why Opensuse?"
ennoil Member since:
2009-02-24

I think you will find that the article does not say that OpenSUSE has been targeted, just that it has not been spared. What is more troubling is that while they are laying off openSUSE folks, they are brining on .NET developers to help with MONO.
Novell is becoming too good friends with Microsoft as far as I can tell...

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RE[2]: Why Opensuse?
by segedunum on Tue 24th Feb 2009 13:56 in reply to "RE: Why Opensuse?"
segedunum Member since:
2005-07-06

It certainly strikes me as a tad insensitive that they are laying off OpenSuse workers and then hoping that they will still continue to work on the project. If the parent company cannot provide direction for it, why should some former workers who have been sacked do that work for them for nothing? It's possible more outside companies will get involved in the project, but I don't see why they would help the main sponsor out here.

Novell have seemingly fallen into a trap that many companies do when it comes to open sourcing things. They hope that they can just throw something out there and hope that they will then benefit from other peoples' ideas and code because they themselves have ran out of ideas. You can't do that. An open source project needs direction, grounding and adequate incentives for many external contributors to get involved.

Edited 2009-02-24 14:13 UTC

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RE[2]: Why Opensuse?
by gfolkert on Tue 24th Feb 2009 14:04 in reply to "RE: Why Opensuse?"
gfolkert Member since:
2008-12-15

Novell is becoming too good friends with Microsoft as far as I can tell...


Really? I never noticed the Voucher Program. Now I've not noticed this. These two thing in particular are disturbing. Can you please tell me how this means Novell and Microsoft are "partners"?

Really? there is really *NO* evidence they are getting cozy...




Ummm... Yeah. Just what have you been (NOT) noticing the last few years?

Thank you very much Mister Captain Obvious. Consider me "awoke"

/me apologizes for being sarcastic this morning. PCI compliance is a PITA and is ruining my day with farcical requirements aimed at that one OS that keeps getting worms, virus(es?), trojans, key-loggers, Active Hexploits... etc.

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RE[2]: Why Opensuse?
by moleskine on Tue 24th Feb 2009 17:17 in reply to "RE: Why Opensuse?"
moleskine Member since:
2005-11-05

That's ironic. I'm typing this on OpenSuSE 11.1 x64 and the one thing that's wobbly is Mono. In fact one flagship Mono app doesn't work at all and I be surprised if it ever has since it seems OpenSuSE haven't yet got around to updating it to a newer, patched version. Another flagship mono app causes freezing and general weird behaviour. Hmmn ...

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