Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 3rd Mar 2009 15:16 UTC, submitted by Moulinneuf
Apple Just as everyone suspected, Apple updated its various lines of desktop computers today, bringing speed and performance improvements across the board. Mac Pro, iMac, and the Mac Mini were all upgraded, and especially for the Mini, it was a long time coming. The Mac Pro sees the most changes.
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UltraZelda64
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2006-12-05

Uh.. what’s so weak about the MacMini for it’s size and price?

Its specs, maybe? Last I checked it had only integrated graphics, for one thing. There's no way in hell I'd settle for that, unless it's a ~$300 netbook. They also appear to be limited to 4 gigs of RAM and the processors don't even get up to 2.5GHz, but the big one for me is the graphics.

The Mac Pro is a business workstation. If it’s overkill and overpriced—there’s a reason. People confuse the Mac Pro with a standard desktop tower. The Mac Pro is in a different league, which has been shown to be cheaper than Dell workstations of the same spec.

Confuse the two? Nah, I think people notice the almost complete lack of customization in the Mac product line, and the only one that's fully customizable aside from RAM and possibly hard drive *is* the Mac Pro. Yes... the super-high end.

What a lot of people want is that customization *without* having to pay $2500. In other words, put lower-end components in it, give it a different name, maybe a different look... done! But Apple refuses to do that. Therefore, what else are people supposed to compare it to?! Apple itself doesn't even give you anything to compare to, so the nearest match is the Mac Pro.

But the customization part is getting a bit off-topic. The bottom line is, if you want a Mac, you're pretty much stuck with those three choices, as I said in my previous post. Small and weak, decent hardware but inflated price thanks to the built-in screen, or an expensive overkill "business" machine. The iMac most closely matches what I want, hardware-wise... but the screen probably inflates the price by nearly half a grand.

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topos Member since:
2005-07-28

What a lot of people want is that customization *without* having to pay $2500.


I do believe 90% of the user do not care at all about customization. I do think a huge majority of users simply want a reliable computer that they never have to upgrade. Most users even are scared about opening the computer. Most of the mac are designed around that concept. The Mac pro are the exception and price for a specific user type.

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UltraZelda64 Member since:
2006-12-05

I do believe 90% of the user do not care at all about customization. I do think a huge majority of users simply want a reliable computer that they never have to upgrade. Most users even are scared about opening the computer. Most of the mac are designed around that concept. The Mac pro are the exception and price for a specific user type.

If someone's too scared to open their computer, guess what...? They can get along just fine by *gasp*... not opening up their computer. Obviously people don't have a problem with this, because based on market share the PC has always mopped the floor with Apple. But those that do intend to tweak and upgrade, they're forced to spend a ridiculous amount if they buy from Apple. Apple is alienating a large number of people, no matter how you look at it.

Meanwhile, Gateway, Dell, and the various other PC companies have almost their entire line of desktop machines--from cheap to midrange to extemely powerful--built in a way that allows them to be fully customized and upgraded after purchase. I know far more people who own a PC than a Mac, yet none of them are terrified by the fact that they can open their computer. They just don't do it, or ask for help doing it. Hell, I'm sure some don't even know you *can* upgrade.

The only people Apple is doing a favor with their current selection of models and pricing is themselves, and perhaps the people in the (very) few small categories they provide suitable systems for.

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