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Apple Numerous irrelevant issues and feelings about them are ventilated in comments on the case. However, there are only two important issues. One is what the law is, the other is what we think the law should be.
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RE[3]: Comment by lurch_mojoff
by gcbirzan on Mon 9th Mar 2009 18:45 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by lurch_mojoff"
gcbirzan
Member since:
2009-03-09

the outside of the box says you need an Apple Macintosh computer to install OS X, right? If labeling on the outside of the box is the hurdle to convince you Psystar is in the wrong, Apple already met it.


So if I buy a mouse whose label says I need Microsoft Windows XP or newer for it to work, am I not allowed to use it on anything else? Mindboggling, as this is effectively tying, since a company is forcing me to use the products of another company to use theirs.

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rhavyn Member since:
2005-07-06

" the outside of the box says you need an Apple Macintosh computer to install OS X, right? If labeling on the outside of the box is the hurdle to convince you Psystar is in the wrong, Apple already met it.


So if I buy a mouse whose label says I need Microsoft Windows XP or newer for it to work, am I not allowed to use it on anything else? Mindboggling, as this is effectively tying, since a company is forcing me to use the products of another company to use theirs.
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FYI, there is nothing wrong with tying your product to the products of another company. The console gaming industry proves this point quite nicely.

The simple fact is, companies do have the right to restrict how you use their products. It has been litigated repeatedly. Go take a look and see how far the bnetd guys got.

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Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

FYI, there is nothing wrong with tying your product to the products of another company. The console gaming industry proves this point quite nicely.


Oh, you mean like how Sony lost the legal battle against that PlayStation emulator Bleem?

Ultimately bleem! won in court and a protective order was issued to "protect David from Goliath".[1] Sony lost on all counts, including bleem!'s use of screenshots of PlayStation games on its packaging. The court noted that bleem!'s use of copyrighted screenshots was considered fair use and should be allowed to continue.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bleem!#Sony_lawsuit

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gcbirzan Member since:
2009-03-09

FYI, there is nothing wrong with tying your product to the products of another company. The console gaming industry proves this point quite nicely.

Except it's illegal. From wikipedia:
Certain tying arrangements are illegal in the United States under both the Sherman Antitrust Act,[1], and Section 3 of the Clayton Act.[2] A tying arrangement is defined as "an agreement by a party to sell one product but only on the condition that the buyer also purchases a different (or tied) product, or at least agrees he will not purchase the product from any other supplier."


Basically, the idea isn't that it doesn't work on other operating systems, just that they cannot stop me if I want to use it on another operating system (and find a way to do so).

The simple fact is, companies do have the right to restrict how you use their products. It has been litigated repeatedly. Go take a look and see how far the bnetd guys got.

That was a different issue, they were going on about piracy, the ability to play on a local server without having bought a license.

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