Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 12th Mar 2009 18:37 UTC
Linux After two years, the relatively popular PCLinuxOS distribution has finally put out a new major release, imaginatively called PCLinuxOS 2009.1. PCLinuxOS is a release originally based on Mandrake (now Mandriva), but which has taken on a life of its own. The distribution has one selling point (for some, at least) few other popular distributions have: it eschews KDE4 (for now).
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KDE
by sj87 on Thu 12th Mar 2009 20:26 UTC
sj87
Member since:
2007-12-16

KDE 4.2 is crap TBH. Its default theming is ass ugly and the poorest things about is it can't really be changed to something else because there are NO options available. Plasma is still somewhat cripled and the plasmoids are very unfinished/unpolished. If a plasmoid is not meant to be placed only into the dock, it will most likely not be usable there. Plasmoids that have a separate interface for docking are just ugly and count with fingers of one's left hand.

KDE apps are also unconsistent in ways how they work. Some allow you to hide the menubar, some don't. Some feature "universal" shortcuts the others don't. (I.e. you don't find a 'close window' shortcut under Kopete, only the 'exit app' one.)

Dolphin, KMail and KWin are probably the only things on earth that make me not want the switch back to GNOME. Among them is only Kate I consider as a usable KDE app in both KDE 3 and 4. And not even them seem 'ready' to me...

KWin lacks some very useful 'effects' (more like usability addons) found in Compiz-Fusion, but I dislike the physics engine of C-F very much. I've never liked KDE3, so that's not an option.

On topic: I think the PCLOS devs made just the right choice considering (what I think is) their userbase. KDE4 is currently just a mess of half-made (an optimistic approximation) features someone thought as a new way of using the desktop.

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RE: KDE
by Elv13 on Thu 12th Mar 2009 23:24 in reply to "KDE"
Elv13 Member since:
2006-06-12

You can chage plasma theme by right clicking on the desktop and you will have access to setings, they exist! You can even do 1 click download+install of plasma theme. Same for wallpaper and the dekstop itself. You can switch it back to classical icon based desktop from that dialog.

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RE[2]: KDE
by sj87 on Fri 13th Mar 2009 18:03 in reply to "RE: KDE"
sj87 Member since:
2007-12-16

You can chage plasma theme by right clicking on the desktop and you will have access to setings, they exist! You can even do 1 click download+install of plasma theme. Same for wallpaper and the dekstop itself. You can switch it back to classical icon based desktop from that dialog.


Plasma is the least visible part of KDE. There are icons, widget styles and window borders too. And yes, I've tried customizing my DE. Bespin for widgets and windows, and some Sculpture-lookalike theme for plasmoids.

My source for alternate themes is KDE-Look.org, which does not currently feature ~any themes par Plasma ones. There are really only Bespin and Sculpture for windows. No alternate full icon sets available to replace Oxygen. Well, they claim there are, but when I installed some using the built-in tool the icons didn't work. Wrong icons appeared in wrong places or none were loaded. Luckily, for me, I'm least annoyed about Oxygen icons.

By the way, those built-in theme download tools in KDE (or the site they're using) are broken. Part of the blame goes definitely to KDE-Look. They allow people to submit source-only releases, which of course are not installable straight from the KDE tools. Sadly, very few people are willing to spend a couple of minutes packaging their piece of software properly. On the other hand, the plasmoid theme downloader gives me just the 10-15 latest themes submitted, and I can't even search for older ones.

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I didn't say I don't know how to customize my desktop. I said there is generally nothing to customize it with.

Edited 2009-03-13 18:07 UTC

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RE: KDE
by darkcoder on Fri 13th Mar 2009 13:41 in reply to "KDE"
darkcoder Member since:
2006-07-14

Both plasma and the standard widgets allows theming. But if you try a Live CD like Kubuntu, probably you will not find any due to lack of disk space.

And like any desktop, free or not, if you don't like the defaults, then go to the Internet and grab the stuff yourself.

And how many times, people have to say if you want the old look, you can have it. The only thing missing was the desktop icons and KDE 4.2 reintroduce that. OpenSUSE 11.1 back ported it btw, and is the only 4.1 distro with that.

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