Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 20th Mar 2009 13:51 UTC, submitted by google_ninja
Privacy, Security, Encryption Fresh from winning the PWN2OWN contest yesterday, Charlie Miller has been interviewed by ZDNet. He talks about how Mac OS X is a very simple operating system to exploit due to the lack of any form of anti-exploit features. He also explains that the underlying operating system is much more important in creating a successful exploit than the bowser, why Chrome is so hard to hack, and many other things.
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RE[2]: Comment by sadyc
by suryad on Fri 20th Mar 2009 15:34 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by sadyc"
suryad
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2005-07-09

I do not see anything wrong with his mentality. It is not his job to help out companies unless the company is paying him directly to do so. At least that is how I see it. There is nothing wrong with using your talents and making money off of it. If Apple was really that concerned about security then they would pay him big bucks to bang away at their software all day. But they dont as far as I know.

Microsoft on the other hand holds these types of security competitions every year and they are reported on the web as well and they actually pay those hackers.

Sure Apple is based on a NIX OS and therefore it has the advantage in security but thats not how I am seeing it nowadays. It seems that it is an OS with a somewhat false sense of security now? I am not saying Microsoft is better dont get me wrong. But I am saying OS X is not necessarily better especially if a hacker comes out and downright says that the OS is easy to screw up!

I always believe being paranoid is the best way to go when it comes to security. From what I am seeing Windows has definitely improved its security especially since they have had no choice but to go up lol but it seems OS X has just remained stagnant in that department but people think because its a NIX based OS they are inherently secure. It could be true to a certin extent but I would rather be paranoid than a victim.

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RE[3]: Comment by sadyc
by sadyc on Fri 20th Mar 2009 17:33 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by sadyc"
sadyc Member since:
2005-11-10

There is nothing wrong with using your talents and making money off of it.

Depends on how one uses his talents; thieves also are using their talents to make money and clearly they are doing something wrong.

My point was that a mentality like "I know a way into your machine and I will sell it to the highest bidder" isn't something to applaud.
While this guy's technical skills are respectable, his morale and mentality certainly isn't.
Quite a lot of people have the skills to do bad things, yet they choose to use their skills in more constructive ways.

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RE[4]: Comment by sadyc
by Bounty on Fri 20th Mar 2009 17:50 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by sadyc"
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2006-09-18

"I know a way into your machine and I will sell it to the highest bidder"


He didn't sell it to the highest bidder.

"What’s the ballpark value of that Safari bug?

It was probably more than that $5,000 prize I won. It’s much less than the IE 8 vulnerability (exploited separately by Nils) by about a factor of ten. I could get more than $5,000 for it but I like the idea of coming here and showcasing what I can do and get some headlines for the company I work for (Independent Security Evaluators)."

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