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RE[3]: US two-party "democracy"
by OMRebel on Tue 24th Mar 2009 18:24 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: US two-party "democracy""
OMRebel
Member since:
2005-11-14

""In the US, there is no such distinction - both major parties are right-wing"

Are you kidding me? The current Democratic party is very far left (borderline socialism). The current Republican party is fairly centric, as they are far left in their financial spending sprees, and far right in their social beliefs.

You obviously have no clue what you're talking about.


The OP probably is speaking from his own political paradigm. From a Dutch perspective, both of your parties are far-right, for instance.
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Educate me on the Dutch, if you would. Is the far-left, to the Dutch, considered dictatorships, and the far-right considered to be socialists? (not asking to argue, I'm just curious as to the Dutch's perspective since you said that socialism is considered far-right)

Edited 2009-03-24 18:26 UTC

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Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

"[q]"In the US, there is no such distinction - both major parties are right-wing"

Are you kidding me? The current Democratic party is very far left (borderline socialism). The current Republican party is fairly centric, as they are far left in their financial spending sprees, and far right in their social beliefs.

You obviously have no clue what you're talking about.


The OP probably is speaking from his own political paradigm. From a Dutch perspective, both of your parties are far-right, for instance.
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Educate me on the Dutch, if you would. Is the far-left, to the Dutch, considered dictatorships, and the far-right considered to be socialists? (not asking to argue, I'm just curious as to the Dutch's perspective since you said that socialism is considered far-right) [/q]

Socialism is a sliding scale as much as any other -ism. What Americans call "socialism" is called "liberal" in The Netherlands. Weird, I know, but that's just the way it is.

Then again, most Americans equate socialism with communism, which makes about as little sense as a dog eating the moon. I's especially hilarious because most people don't even have a clue as to what "communism" means - and that there has never even BEEN a communist state, only dictatorships that CALL themselves communist.

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RE[5]: US two-party "democracy"
by jwwf on Tue 24th Mar 2009 19:00 in reply to "RE[4]: US two-party "democracy""
jwwf Member since:
2006-01-19

Then again, most Americans equate socialism with communism, which makes about as little sense as a dog eating the moon.


Would you elaborate on your view of the differences? At the moment I see it as the two having essentially the same end-game goals but different opinions of how to achieve them--essentially, a disagreement on whether society should be forcibly reinvented, or changed incrementally through the existing legal system. At any rate I am surprised that you think there is no common ground.

I's especially hilarious because most people don't even have a clue as to what "communism" means - and that there has never even BEEN a communist state, only dictatorships that CALL themselves communist.


Perhaps that there is something in human nature which makes it impossible, in the same way that perfect peace is impossible?

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OMRebel Member since:
2005-11-14

Thanks for the clarification Thom!

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Haicube Member since:
2005-08-06

Socialism is a sliding scale as much as any other -ism. What Americans call "socialism" is called "liberal" in The Netherlands. Weird, I know, but that's just the way it is.


Dear Thom,

It's actually the other way around. When they say Liberal in the US they refer to what the dutch would call a socialist. Socialists in a dutch sense adhere to Democratic party in the US, and the republicans are conservatives in general.

However, Liberal in a European sense would likely adher to the Libertarian Party in the US which is a completely different story http://www.lp.org/

As well as the Greens have Ralph Nader as their ally in the US (if not mistaken).

US politics is very much different from european. The system in the US has better accountability mechanisms due to voting for individuals (President/Senators etC) rather than simply a party as is often the case in many european democracies where accountability is a joke at best.

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