Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 25th Mar 2009 18:57 UTC, submitted by Michael
KDE On Friday, KDE officially launched its version of Dell's IdeaStorm - KDE Brainstorm. In less than 24 hours, over 100 new ideas were proposed. "Getting the non-developer and developer communities really communicating is often a challenge, and KDE's approach is a great start. Developers now have an opportunity to hear what end-users want."
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RE[3]: KDE brainstorm
by steampoweredlawn on Thu 26th Mar 2009 04:46 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: KDE brainstorm"
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2006-09-27

There may even be a desire in some circles to unfairly smear the reputation of a new and innovative competing desktop software.


I guess anything is possible, but it's pretty childish, and doesn't seem to be coming from the Gnome guys themselves.

http://jasondclinton.livejournal.com/71412.html

Jason D. Clinton, devloper of the Gnome games modules, says
I just wanted to continue to praise what the KDE people are doing since I poorly reviewed 4.0. I just installed KDE 4.2 (what is tagged in SVN) and played with it for a few hours. In short: it is amazing!
It is so, so impressive. You guys deserve tons of kudos for what you have achieved.


Based on my own personal experiences, I'm guessing that these pundits played with KDE 4.0.x or 4.1.x, and the system didn't like their machine very much (it was pretty finicky about hardware), and therefore decided that it was garbage.

I have KDE 4 installed on four computers, three of which work flawlessly. One of them has a crummy SiS card and presumably because of its drivers, Plasma has a severe memory leak where after 24 hours its using 512 megs of RAM. A friend of mine asked me to put KDE 4 on his machine, replacing Gnome, but after countless glitches and random lockups, he decided that while KDE 4 is brimming with promise, it just isn't there yet, for him. He grudgingly asked me to put Gnome back after the 4.2 upgrade didn't solve any of his problems.

It's entirely possible that for these people, KDE 4 simply doesn't work right, and they haven't had the pleasure of seeing it when it's working the way it's supposed to.

The thing everyone needs to remember is this isn't an Us vs Them battle, it's different strokes for different folks, and we're all one big community looking for software that works the way we do.

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RE[4]: KDE brainstorm
by lemur2 on Thu 26th Mar 2009 05:56 in reply to "RE[3]: KDE brainstorm"
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

A friend of mine asked me to put KDE 4 on his machine, replacing Gnome, but after countless glitches and random lockups, he decided that while KDE 4 is brimming with promise, it just isn't there yet, for him. He grudgingly asked me to put Gnome back after the 4.2 upgrade didn't solve any of his problems.


If this machine has a nvidia card, check the version of the driver. If the driver is the nvidia proprietary driver version 17x.xx or earlier, then update to the latest driver. Nvidia have been furiously releasing new versions of their Linux driver of late (sometimes as frequently as four days interval).

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NzE2OA

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NzE1NQ

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NzE0NA

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NzEyNg

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NzA5MQ

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NzA1Nw

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NzAyMg

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=nvidia_18025&num...

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Njk3OA

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RE[5]: KDE brainstorm
by steampoweredlawn on Thu 26th Mar 2009 06:44 in reply to "RE[4]: KDE brainstorm"
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2006-09-27

Trust me, I'm well aware. My main machine has a 7900GTX, my workstation has a GeForce 4 MX, and my HTPC has a 7300LE. The 7900 works best with the 180.22 driver, the 7300 likes the 185 beta driver best so far. The legacy driver does the job quite well for the GeForce 4.

His machine has an embedded 6100, and no driver seemed to make that much of an improvement, beyond making desktop effects smoother and fixing the system tray graphic corruptions. The plan is to try again with each point release until it works, either from improvements to drivers or KDE itself. For now though, Gnome is just more robust on his hardware.

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RE[4]: KDE brainstorm
by superstoned on Thu 26th Mar 2009 07:01 in reply to "RE[3]: KDE brainstorm"
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2005-07-07

I can imagine the issues of your friend, there are a huge amount of corner-issues left, only affecting some ppl and not others. We have had KDE 4.x out for a little over a year now, so it's most likely gonna take at least another year before most of those are fixed. I've experienced the very same - on my desktop, KDE 4.3SVN easily uses 1.5 gig of ram (!) while on my laptop (same distro and svn version!) 512 is more than enough for running KDE. Finding the culprit is very hard - I'm afraid we just have to wait until more of those bugs are squashed. And the KDE community needs input from users to be able to find them, obviously. That's a big part of the reason for the 4.0 release - much DID work for the devs and they needed input to fix the weird issues they themselves did not experience.

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RE[5]: KDE brainstorm
by sbergman27 on Thu 26th Mar 2009 22:19 in reply to "RE[4]: KDE brainstorm"
sbergman27 Member since:
2005-07-24

I can imagine the issues of your friend, there are a huge amount of corner-issues left, only affecting some ppl and not others.

And this coming from an actual KDE dev, over 14 months after the 4.0 release. "Disgraceful" is the only word that really fits. I remember when KDE 1.0 was released. Rock solid in the tradition of FOSS projects of the time, which tended to remain at 0.9x in perpetuity. If you're going to use this deceptive release numbering scheme, KDE.org really needs to be shouting "This isn't ready yet!" from the hills, rather than all this ongoing "4.x+1 is really gonna be it this time!" disinformation.

Edited 2009-03-26 22:21 UTC

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