Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 17th Apr 2009 11:15 UTC, submitted by csynt
Law and Order Old World 1, New World 0. The four defendants in the landmark The Pirate Bay case, taking place in Sweden, have all been found guilty, and sentenced to one year in jail. They also received a hefty fine of USD 3.58 million to 17 American media companies, among which are Warner Bros. Entertainment, MGM Pictures, Columbia Pictures Industries, Twentieth Century Fox Film, Sony BMG, Universal, EMI, Blizzard Entertainment, Sierra Entertainment, and Activision. The defendants have already stated they will appeal the decision.
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RE: wah?
by tbscope2 on Fri 17th Apr 2009 11:57 UTC in reply to "wah?"
tbscope2
Member since:
2009-02-14

Companies indeed spend money and need to, at least, break even.

But...
Don't you think that 100.000.000$ is a little bit too much to produce a movie?

At least, I want to see a complete list of payments for such a movie to find out where the most money is going to.

I hope you can understand when I say that actors should not make millions of dollars for a few weeks of work. I work very hard and just get around with my pay check. And I should give some of it to overpriced movies? No thank you.

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RE[2]: wah?
by libray on Fri 17th Apr 2009 14:11 in reply to "RE: wah?"
libray Member since:
2005-08-27

Why do you think you have a right to determine how much or where the mony for media goes? Thats just one of the common "justifications" for "stealing"

Why not go to the store and slip some drinks in your pocket because the margins the soft drink companies are too high?

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RE[3]: wah?
by adkilla on Fri 17th Apr 2009 14:52 in reply to "RE[2]: wah?"
adkilla Member since:
2005-07-07

Copyright infringement does not equal stealing!

-Ad

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RE[3]: wah?
by ephracis on Fri 17th Apr 2009 21:40 in reply to "RE[2]: wah?"
ephracis Member since:
2007-09-23

Still. People are upset that actors make way more money than they actually deserve. I want to see a nurse or a janitor get the same salary as Brad Pitt or Britney Spears.

I am from Sweden so I am not really into the whole 'the market can take care of itself' kinda thing, nor do I think that everything should be controlled by the government and the state. But I strongly believe that if you leave the market along it will NOT end up well, just as it won't if you let a dictator control everything in a country. Extreme capitalism is as bad as extreme communism.

The market has gone crazy. Famous movie stars are making millions and people that actually contribute to an essential part of society barely get around.

However, I think that the biggest problem is the lack of adaptation. A new business model is needed. And it's not freaking impossible. Linux companies can make money without charging for the software. The fact that they are not as big as Microsoft has nothing to do with the business model. Google doesn't charge you for using their search function. Facebook doesn't charge you for registering. We in Sweden don't pay for health care. You don't have to pay for borrowing a book at the library. The Metro newspaper is free. There are a lot of stuff that you can give away for free if you are just creative enough to find a business model that's outside the box.

And no, I don't think that media should be financed by tax money but I do believe that there are tons of ways to make this happen. Spotify is a great example of letting people consume media without paying.

There is a new generation growing up, and why should they just accept that things will keep on working as they have before? Things always change, for better or worse. But to be successful you need to adapt and change. You need to try new things.

And I agree with a former poster, this generation will be as greedy and full of bullshit as everyone else when they grow up. It's human nature to be a fscking douchebag.

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RE[2]: wah?
by sachindaluja on Fri 17th Apr 2009 15:01 in reply to "RE: wah?"
sachindaluja Member since:
2007-02-15

You always have the choice to not watch those movies.

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RE[3]: wah?
by orestes on Fri 17th Apr 2009 17:38 in reply to "RE[2]: wah?"
orestes Member since:
2005-07-06

That'd require actual integrity, something a great majority of the people on both sides seem to have lost along the way.

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RE[3]: wah?
by asupcb on Fri 17th Apr 2009 19:49 in reply to "RE[2]: wah?"
asupcb Member since:
2005-11-10

And I usually don't. Not even through BitTorrent.

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RE[2]: wah?
by macUser on Fri 17th Apr 2009 20:31 in reply to "RE: wah?"
macUser Member since:
2006-12-15

Companies indeed spend money and need to, at least, break even.

But...
Don't you think that 100.000.000$ is a little bit too much to produce a movie?

At least, I want to see a complete list of payments for such a movie to find out where the most money is going to.

I hope you can understand when I say that actors should not make millions of dollars for a few weeks of work. I work very hard and just get around with my pay check. And I should give some of it to overpriced movies? No thank you.


It's going to the talent, mostly. Why shouldn't they get paid as much as they make? They're the draw and they know it. Until we stop worshipping the ground they walk on, it will remain that way.

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RE[3]: wah?
by tbscope2 on Sat 18th Apr 2009 08:16 in reply to "RE[2]: wah?"
tbscope2 Member since:
2009-02-14

I'm a talent too.
I make my company save thousands of dollars each year.

Do you think the saved dollars are put on my banking account?
Do you think my bosses worship me?

You might find it dead normal that some people with some talent get millions. And I too agree that some people with great talents should be awarded! Nothing wrong with that.

But why are only artists talented?
Or big company bosses?

The nurse in your local hospital who helps people day in day out... THAT person is talented and should be awarded.

And that goes for everyone.

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