Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 17th Apr 2009 18:14 UTC, submitted by sonic2000gr
FreeBSD KenSmith announced the immediate availability of FreeBSD 7.2-RC1 in the FreeBSD-stable mailing list. "The first of two planned Release Candidates for the FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE cycle is now available. Testing of some of the recent work would be particularly appreciated." The release schedule states that the final release is to be expected early May, at which point we'll cover FreeBSD 7.2 in much more detail.
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RE[3]: What's new?
by Oliver on Sat 18th Apr 2009 17:45 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: What's new?"
Oliver
Member since:
2006-07-15

What support from Debian? Cutting out a kernel is pure nonsense! The huge advantage of *BSD is the high quality development of kernel and userland altogether. Furthermore nobody cares about most parts of GNU userland, it's a single lack of quality. Even many Linux distros are glad to use some tools of the BSD userland (the most obvious OpenSSH, libarchive and bsdtar ...) and Google Android e.g. uses many parts of the BSD userland plus a libc derived from OpenBSD/NetBSD. Linux uses superpages, a technology developed for FreeBSD, Firefox 3.x uses jemalloc from FreeBSD etc. pp.

Well I don't want to start a flameware, BUT Debian itself is barely able anymore to just put together some operating system developed by other people. And I don't want to mention any of the high quality flops, like Iceweasel, cdrtools ...

Developing a kernel plus userland and distributing this as ready-to-use operating system is a real achievement.

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RE[4]: What's new?
by dvzt on Sat 18th Apr 2009 20:21 in reply to "RE[3]: What's new?"
dvzt Member since:
2008-10-23

This is all nice, but I think that APT is much more powerfull than FreeBSD ports. I for one would welcome BSD with APT for package management ;)

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RE[5]: What's new?
by g0nad on Sat 18th Apr 2009 22:27 in reply to "RE[4]: What's new?"
g0nad Member since:
2009-02-22
RE[5]: What's new?
by sonic2000gr on Sat 18th Apr 2009 23:14 in reply to "RE[4]: What's new?"
sonic2000gr Member since:
2007-05-20

I would say APT is the best for binary package management, but FreeBSD ports is unbeatable for source based installs.

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RE[5]: What's new?
by Brandybuck on Sun 19th Apr 2009 00:41 in reply to "RE[4]: What's new?"
Brandybuck Member since:
2006-08-27

But APT is for Debian, not FreeBSD. Just because one can replace the kernel with a bunch of hacking does not mean you can use Debian packages on FreeBSD. There is the complete userland to consider. Debian developers develop for Debian, and not FreeBSD.

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RE[5]: What's new?
by Oliver on Sun 19th Apr 2009 06:48 in reply to "RE[4]: What's new?"
Oliver Member since:
2006-07-15

Binary packages != ports. And if it comes to sources-based management Debian is a single failure. However if we're talking about management of binary packages, then pacman from ArchLinux is the way to go. Why should an OS like FreeBSD that follows the KISS principle use something like apt? Prone to failure, overloaded with scripts etc.? No you're talking about the past. But then, most people chosing FreeBSD are quiet happy about the ports and the control they get while building the software. And I don't speak about performance, but control of features, patches, quality compared to inconsistencies among binary packages etc.

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RE[5]: What's new?
by sbenitezb on Sun 19th Apr 2009 17:57 in reply to "RE[4]: What's new?"
sbenitezb Member since:
2005-07-22

ports are better if you want to compile. For binary releases I would prefer pacman to apt-get, and I'm an old apt-get lover.

Now FreeBSD with pacman would really rock.

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RE[4]: What's new?
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Sun 19th Apr 2009 19:03 in reply to "RE[3]: What's new?"
Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

Respectfully disagree, Love debian gnu/linux. Will love debian gnu/FreeBSD. I prefer the Gnu userland. Silly little differences between the two, but sort of a pain switching between my Linux work and anything on BSD.

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RE[4]: What's new?
by Vide on Mon 20th Apr 2009 12:07 in reply to "RE[3]: What's new?"
Vide Member since:
2006-02-17

OpenSSH comes from OpenBSD, not FreeBSD, and where are talking about Debian GNU/FreeBSD in this case.
So, what's the boombastic part of the freebsd userland which GNU should envy?

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