Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 20th Apr 2009 11:53 UTC, submitted by tsedlmeyer
SUN Microsystems We've been debating the merits of a possible IBM-Sun deal for a while now, and even Sun itself seemed to be in the dark as to if it would be a good idea to be bought by IBM. These debates are now all moot: in a surprise move (at least, I didn't see any speculation about it) Oracle has bought Sun Microsystems, at USD 9.50 a share, which equates to a total of 7.4 billion USD. The news got out through a press release.
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Good for Java
by JeffS on Mon 20th Apr 2009 16:38 UTC
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2005-07-12

While Sun was pretty much a good steward of the Java language, their business stuggles could be a real albatross around the neck of Java, in terms of having the resources to make Java reach it's full potential, and in terms of people's perception of Java as an viable on-going concern.

But with Oracle controlling it now, all that goes away. Oracle have deep resources, and are spectalarly successful business, even in this horrible economy.

The question now is,l with Oracle being primarily concerned with enterprise middle ware, what happens with client Java. I'm sure JavaFX is dead, but what happens with Swing, or other client side stuff? Does Oracle see the value in also having compelling client side offerings (to help spur on server side middleware growth)? What happens to NetBeans?

We'll see.

RE: Good for Java
by werpu on Mon 20th Apr 2009 17:09 in reply to "Good for Java"
werpu Member since:
2006-01-18

Swing is far from dead, the entire Oracle DB client side toolchain relies on it. In fact I would have been worried more about Swing if IBM had bought Sun!
JavaFX I am not sure but I assume also it will be dead, it is not Oracles business and it was too late to the table anyway and too slow, it might find its nieche in set top boxes however, Blue Ray for instance might be a new home for it...

JSF probably will have a bright future, the 2.0 spec is very good and JSF has been Oracles baby anway while Sun always treated it more like a stepchild dedicating only a few resources towards it because they had to.
My biggest concern (I am not the least concerned regarding MySQL, I always hated it) is NetBeans which is in direct collission with JDeveloper...
Netbeans has become a tremendously good ide over the last releases and has started to show its full potential with 6.5...
As for OpenOffice and Solaris, it probably will be business as usual probably Solaris will get more resources now...



While Sun was pretty much a good steward of the Java language, their business stuggles could be a real albatross around the neck of Java, in terms of having the resources to make Java reach it's full potential, and in terms of people's perception of Java as an viable on-going concern.

But with Oracle controlling it now, all that goes away. Oracle have deep resources, and are spectalarly successful business, even in this horrible economy.

The question now is,l with Oracle being primarily concerned with enterprise middle ware, what happens with client Java. I'm sure JavaFX is dead, but what happens with Swing, or other client side stuff? Does Oracle see the value in also having compelling client side offerings (to help spur on server side middleware growth)? What happens to NetBeans?

We'll see.

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RE[2]: Good for Java
by bryanv on Mon 20th Apr 2009 18:23 in reply to "RE: Good for Java"
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2005-08-26

I've tried netbeans multiple times over the last five or six years. Every time, it strikes me as one f-ing pile of crap slow-ass program.

The last time I ran it was 6.5 on my Pentium D system on my desk at work (with gobs of RAM). It was so painful to use that I went back to JEdit, and drew my own UML diagrams with dia. Doing that was faster than futzing with NetBeans.

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