Apple has presented its financial results for the first quarter of 2009 (which is the second quarter of the fiscal year 2009 for Apple), and despite suspicions that Apple might see a sharp decline in Macintosh sales in face of the economic slowdown, the company has managed to weather the storm quite well.
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Member since:2007-05-12
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I was just saying that no matter how their business plan work for them, I can still criticize it...
I'm not necessarily defending Apple's "business plan". The point I were trying to make is that you don't have much grounds to criticize the way Apple are doing business, because not only are they achieving their sole goal that way, but also in doing so they make products and services, with which people seem to be greatly satisfied.
Bad for the world? Really? Are Apple clubbing seals now to make those iPods? Don't you think that you're going a lot overboard with this statement? In fact I think that Apple's existence is overall good for the world - you have one more kind of operating system, one more brand of computers, portable music players and smart phones, and one more music store to choose from. You don't have to choose them, but you can. And isn't "competition is good for customers" what everybody is chanting these days.
I think that Apple have shown that they know to do business and they have both the profits and the customer satisfaction to prove it. No company cares about *everyone* so criticizing any particular one for that is both pointless and retarded.
Member since:2008-10-23
This is getting confused. I believe we agree but we talk past each other and we don't listen. I agree with almost everything you said, but I still think that no matter how their business plan work for them, I can still criticize, ask for more openess and demmand a netbook as a customer. Whether they listen or not and whether it is good for them or not does not matter, since I am not them. If I want it, I can demmand it and if I don't like it I can criticize it. Their bottom line does not make them right and does not mean they are beyond criticism.
Member since:2005-10-12
You might make the same argument about MS. They have huge market share, they have generated huge profits, they are achieving the objectives they set for themselves, they must be doing it right. Don't criticize them.
The previous poster is making the point, very simple really, that what is good for Apple, or MS for that matter, may not be good for society. What is good for GM may not be good for America.
Though in fact, the then CEO of GM never made the famous remark, what he said was that what is good for America is good for GM, but history has recorded him as saying the inverse and mocked him for it.
Apple has always been against freedom of information and freedom of use and interoperability. This agenda, if successful, is bad for intellectual freedom and is bad for society. The model is a bad one for society. But it makes lots of money for Apple, and MS, and they have executed it successfully. They won, we lost. This is the point he is making. He is right.
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2008-10-23
You don't seem to realize that I don't give a flying f--k what Apple wants, needs, or thinks they need. I just don't understand why you feel the need to defend their business plan and explain how it makes their investors happy. I don't really care.
I believe you read my ealier post wrong. I was commenting on evangs' post. I was just saying that no matter how their business plan work for them, I can still criticize it based on the fact that it is bad for the world. And what is wrong with that? You think that because they win much money they must do it right or you think that because they don't care about us we should not criticize?
Edited 2009-04-23 11:32 UTC