Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 5th May 2009 22:04 UTC
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu Many Linux users have experience with Wine, the application compatibility layer which allows some Windows programs to run on UNIX-like machines. During Ubuntu's Open Week event, Mark Shuttleworth was asked about Wine, and how important he believes it is for the success of Ubuntu.
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Perhaps I should have used the word "implication" rather than "accusation." If you don't remember, the last line of the comment I quoted basically implied that the OP might have an agenda. That's a pretty clear implication, I suggest you go back and read your own comment.
Pointing out foss is great, the problem with what you do is that when someone dares to say they don't find a free software program adequate, you bring out the implications against them. I'm honestly beginning to wonder if you remember writing half of the things you write. On one hand you typically make valid points--whether someone else agrees or not isn't an issue--and then on the other hand you act as though anyone who doesn't use foss exclusively, who dares to find a proprietary program better, is some kind of unwashed heathen needing enlightenment or something. That is what I object to, and that is where you come off arrogant, condescending, and overzealous, and will drive folks away. Believe it or not, many find that insulting to their intelligence, and will refuse to have anything to do with people like that. You honestly make most of the Mac zealots look like a bunch of calm, collected people.
Still... if you don't get it by now, you never will. You're obviously intelligent, just don't take it personally every time someone doesn't find one of your ideas to their liking (note: implications count as taking it personally).
Oh, and by the way, you've now decided to insult me as well... "from the likes of you?" Pathetic, now I disagree with your zealotry and I get insulted. Well, I feel the same way, buddy... I wouldn't put up with the likes of you if my purpose here was to be liked. I was actually going to let this pass... until I saw that line now directed at me, personally. What'd I say about taking it personal? Hint hint, there.

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lemur2 Member since:

What'd I say about taking it personal? Hint hint, there.

Your entire rant is an unfounded personal attack towards myself.

Classic case.

PS: despite whatever you may think, it would still be morally remiss of me if I knew for a fact that there is copious decent freedom software that was available to all and which would perfectly satisfy the needs of 99% of people, and I did not tell people all about it in a context where others were trying to pretend that they somehow needed to run (and therefore buy) expensive software proprietary instead.

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jabjoe Member since:

The "hidden agenda" was a small attack, but nothing compared with what was use in retaliation.

I will second that linux media apps are good enough for general use. AVIDemux has done me just fine for my video editing needs, which are basic. Gimp is a great bitmap editor. Inkscape is a great vector editor. AudioCity has fulfilled my audio editing needs. Wings3D and Blender seam to have no shortage of 3D media fans but I have not used either.

Unless you are working professionally, I would very much doubt Adobe apps are worth the money. Even if you are working professionally, check out the Linux apps, you may well find many meet your needs for free.

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