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don't hold much hope
by AndrewZ on Thu 21st May 2009 14:50 UTC
AndrewZ
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2005-11-15

I don't hold much hope for the Loonson-2 MIPS chip outside of China. History has shown that the market forces that drive the X86 platform are powerful. X86 have completely killed off MIPS, and Alpha platforms. PowerPC is no longer a desktop options, SPARCs future has been in question for some time.

The only reason Loonson-2 exists is because it is heavily subsidized by the Chinese government. If and when the government removes or lessens subsides, the chip will be prohibitively expensive.

I seriously doubt that the Loonson-2 R&D can keep up with Intel, AMD, ARM or even Via's Nano. It will be outpaced and outmoded like some East German car competing against a West German BMW.

If the Chinese government had half a brain they would have simply bought a controlling interest in Via, and used the Nano as their platform.

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RE: don't hold much hope
by Thom_Holwerda on Thu 21st May 2009 15:00 in reply to "don't hold much hope"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

You do realise that China is richer than god, right?

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RE[2]: don't hold much hope
by spikeb on Thu 21st May 2009 15:02 in reply to "RE: don't hold much hope"
spikeb Member since:
2006-01-18

god doesn't have much money left after the vatican took it all ;)

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RE: don't hold much hope
by Vinegar Joe on Thu 21st May 2009 15:10 in reply to "don't hold much hope"
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2006-08-16


If the Chinese government had half a brain they would have simply bought a controlling interest in Via, and used the Nano as their platform.


Get real. The Taiwanese government would never allow the PRC to buy control of a Taiwanese company as important as VIA.

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RE[2]: don't hold much hope
by voidlogic on Thu 21st May 2009 20:06 in reply to "RE: don't hold much hope"
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2005-09-03

I agree, and further on that line of reasoning, the company that actually designs and packages the VIA Nano, Centaur Technology (A VIA subsidiary), is located in the US.

Even if Taiwanese government allowed such a purchase, the US government would probably not allow Centaur Technology to be transferred into Chinese hands.

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RE: don't hold much hope
by DRIQ on Thu 21st May 2009 19:37 in reply to "don't hold much hope"
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2008-04-28

Have you been living in a cave for the last two years?

I am impressed with the economic achievement, and the technology achievement too.

They have sent men to the space. Making a CPU is not as complex as landing human on the moon.

You sure do not understand the culture. The Chinese always do what the government says. Now they want to make CPU. Trust me, they will get there.

Who wants a MIPS CPU? Again, the Chinese government will make it official. All govt department IT must use Chinese CPU and Open Source software. 1/4 of the world's population is there. Is the market big enough?

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RE[2]: don't hold much hope
by AndrewZ on Fri 22nd May 2009 14:06 in reply to "RE: don't hold much hope"
AndrewZ Member since:
2005-11-15

I have a lot of respect for the Chinese people, and I do not feel that the American culture has any special key to high tech business innovation. But I do believe that each generation of CPU development takes billions of dollars, and requires tight coordination of highly skilled engineers. Creating new generations of CPU on tight deadlines is very difficult. Even AMD has difficulties doing this. With respect to the Chinese engineers creating the Loonson-2, they will have the same difficulties.

If you have any insight into high tech development in China I would very much like to hear from you. China studies are fascinating and China will have a large role in high tech development and will affect all of our lives.

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