Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 2nd Jun 2009 18:00 UTC, submitted by poundsmack
Hardware, Embedded Systems Netbooks, netbooks, netbooks, netbooks, netbooks. That's basicaly Computex in a nutshell. If you've seen one Atom-based netbook, you've seen them all, but luckily for us, NVIDIA is about to shake the world of netbooks up with a new Tegra chipset, the Tegra 650. Full high definition playback, battery life from outer space, and a processor that is always-on. Well, that's what NVIDIA promises, anyway. Twelve Tegra 650 devices were announced, with the first devices shipping before the end of the year - at USD 199 or less.
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by MamiyaOtaru on Tue 2nd Jun 2009 19:24 UTC
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2005-11-11

Before anyone gets excited about a netbook that has to run Linux, see: http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/02/video-tegra-based-mobinnova-elan...

Windows CE. You knew Microsoft wasn't going to sit there and let a whole class of consumer computers be sold without trying to get a piece. And yeah, Arm CE is mostly useless without x86 apps. So we get the best of both worlds: Windows instead of Linux, but without the apps.

Of course people can install whatever they want on it, but I'm not expecting a lot of companies to ship even Arm based netbooks with Linux and support it ;)

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RE: CE
by poundsmack on Tue 2nd Jun 2009 19:35 in reply to "CE"
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2005-07-13

i can't tell if your post was intended as sarcasm or not so i wil just go ahead and adress little bits of it.

Yes is has Win CE instead of linux: But, while not having as many apps, Win CE does have a ton of apps that suport ARM. Also, it is not that hard to get existing .NET aps to run on modern Win Ce implimentations (late veriosn 5, and current version 6).

Linux on arm: Linux on ARM is picking up speed as more distributions (and google's Android) are using ARM now and many many linux apps recompile with out much effort for these distributions.

I am not sure yet of the state of the linux hardware acceleration for Tegra, but I believe it's either released or nearly finished (it was close a little while ago, but i stopped paying attention).

Over all Nvidia did a great job with this platform, and it's capabilities are just short of amazing. can't wait till these devices are in production.

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RE[2]: CE
by Soulbender on Wed 3rd Jun 2009 07:49 in reply to "RE: CE"
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2005-08-18

[Over all Nvidia did a great job with this platform, and it's capabilities are just short of amazing.


Wow, that would be a first.

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RE[2]: CE
by miro on Wed 3rd Jun 2009 15:53 in reply to "RE: CE"
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2005-07-13

Wtf? Windows CE (and Mobile aka Pocket PC) only support the "Compact Framework". So let me assure you it is not *easy* to run anything .NET based from desktop on devices...

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RE: CE
by fretinator on Tue 2nd Jun 2009 19:47 in reply to "CE"
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2005-07-06

Little-known fact: Most of the world is actually a suburb of Redmond, Washington. Thus the tax...

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RE: CE
by boldingd on Tue 2nd Jun 2009 20:03 in reply to "CE"
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2009-02-19

I wonder how much a Windows CE license is going to be. It can't be costing nVidia much, if they're building the hardware and paying for a Windows CE license, and still selling the things for as little as $199. One hopes the Linux version is going to be at least a little cheaper - unless Microsoft is simply giving away Windows CE licenses.
For that matter, how much of a draw is Windows CE really going to be? Is it close enough to the desktop Windows experience that people will prefer it to system running Linux? I'd like to think that, if they can't get Windows 7, most consumers will pick normal, "desktop OS" Linux over Windows CE, which I at least think of as an OS for high-end cell phones (stupid of me as that probably is).

But that battery life is crazy, that price is low, and if Moblin runs on it decently, I'll get me one a' these.

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RE[2]: CE
by poundsmack on Tue 2nd Jun 2009 20:36 in reply to "RE: CE"
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2005-07-13

These CE devices will have apps like App Store style apps through microsofts app store front. So no customers wont be able to install their favorite software from disc, but their will be a decent amount of titles (most around 1st quarter of 2010).

There will be apps though, and it will feel desktop like. your normal user, casual user, will be satisfied. The battery life is one of the huge selling points on these guys (aside from their graphics capabilities).

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RE[2]: CE
by JAlexoid on Wed 3rd Jun 2009 20:17 in reply to "RE: CE"
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2009-05-19

MS may or may not have a pull on that market. Since it depends on who will produce these things. If it's a company like Nokia, then they can forget MS, and whatever they like.
Oh, and BTW, MS will have to gamble very carefully, since EU Competition Commission will be watching this. You know, that is what "anti trust" is all about.

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RE: CE
by rafaelnp on Wed 3rd Jun 2009 19:44 in reply to "CE"
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2009-06-03

windows ce is horrible. it is a nightmare to develop apps to it.

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