Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 8th Jun 2009 18:02 UTC
Apple At the WWDC today, Apple has lifted the veil on a number of features of its upcoming operating system, Snow Leopard. Most of the work on Snow Leopard has gone into under-the-hood technologies and optimisations, but there are also a number of interface tweaks. The company also updated some of its laptops, while also lowering their prices. We got all the news from MacRumorsLive.com.
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rhetoric.sendmemoney
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2006-01-22


Snow Leopard's new features are mostly targeted towards professional users. So much for "target audience"... Even home users will appriciate increased performance, usability improvements, ect.


Whoa there killer, are you going to tell me Apple's target audience is NOT the home user? No one is going to agree with you on that with a straight face. "Hi I'm a Mac" was NOT targeting businesses? Where are all the Apple "business" commercials?

The latter are service pack level adjustments. Not $29 changes. See service pack/firefox points above.

(Edit: Fixed punctuation.)

Edited 2009-06-08 19:08 UTC

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NathanHill Member since:
2006-10-06


The latter are service pack level adjustments. Not $29 changes. See service pack/firefox points above.


Whoa there. OpenCL as service pack level adjustment? Grand Central? Those are the kinds of things that really are grappling with where computer technology is moving. They aren't just an extra layer or piece of software. They are built in to the core along with 64-bit everything and completely rebuilt Cocoa Finder and other things. That's way bigger than silly bug fixes from a service pack.

The good thing is that Leopard is going to be running along great for PowerPC users and others who may not upgrade for years to come. Contrast that with how Microsoft is trying to put together a winner (Windows 7) after a loser (Vista). Apple is building an even stronger winner (Snow Leopard) based on a proven winner (Leopard). I wonder what would have happened if Microsoft had just developed a stronger XP in the first place.

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rhetoric.sendmemoney Member since:
2006-01-22

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The latter are service pack level adjustments. Not $29 changes. See service pack/firefox points above.


Whoa there. OpenCL as service pack level adjustment? Grand Central? Those are the kinds of things that really are grappling with where computer technology is moving. They aren't just an extra layer or piece of software. They are built in to the core along with 64-bit everything and completely rebuilt Cocoa Finder and other things. That's way bigger than silly bug fixes from a service pack.

The good thing is that Leopard is going to be running along great for PowerPC users and others who may not upgrade for years to come. Contrast that with how Microsoft is trying to put together a winner (Windows 7) after a loser (Vista). Apple is building an even stronger winner (Snow Leopard) based on a proven winner (Leopard). I wonder what would have happened if Microsoft had just developed a stronger XP in the first place.
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Careful, I was solely using Windows service packs as an example. Lets not get derailed by that wreck. I don't think it is a better solution than OSX at all. Nor is Linux. This is about Apple "not enough profit margin for a reasonably priced notebook" trying to pass a service pack off with a $29 dollar fee. A Microsoft failure has nothing to do with this.

Those changes do not present a value NOW. When the "future" features come out using them they will. RIGHT NOW they do not provide a value added benefit to the home user. Therefore they are not worth $29 to the home user. The speed gains/interface tweaks (which are not very expansive) are service pack level changes... Microsoft upgrades DirectX/Windows Search and many other similar techs in their SPs. This is hardly different.

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FealDorf Member since:
2008-01-07

You don't get it. End-users don't *care* about these new APIs; and developers need their users to have these API's. It's kinda like a chicken-egg story... Let's see how quickly users will adopt it. If you ask me; it needs a few killer-apps..

Vista was also, in a sense, a developmental upgrade -- it featured hardware-accelerated WPF, DX10, a new audio stack, a new printing system, the list goes on..
BUT it wasn't an incremental upgrade. Instead it was an unoptimized and unfinished OS which is why it failed to get a comparatively sufficient market. It's nowhere a failure like Windows ME (and Vista's still more PCs than mac). That's my take anyway..

>>I wonder what would have happened if Microsoft had just developed a stronger XP in the first place.<<
Everyone's saying Win7 is faster than XP. Why would they? If you ask me; XP is way too refined to get any gain.. Not to mention that Win7 has unanimously positive reception. It doesn't matter if it's a loser followed by a winner; people see it as the next iteration from XP. Secretly, so does MS..

IMO Win7 and Snow Leopard are quite alike -- "commercial service packs". The difference is that you have to pay the premium for one of them.
Win7 is Vista + UI and polish
Snow Leopard is Leopard + APIs and tidbits

I have a Mac-Mini with Leopard; and I'm not opting for the upgrade. Don't get me wrong; I love my Mac but I use windows as well. Arguing that Snow Leopard's worth looking for a technological upgrade would work just as well for Vista SP1..

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KAMiKAZOW Member since:
2005-07-06

Whoa there killer, are you going to tell me Apple's target audience is NOT the home user?

No. I'm telling you that Snow Leopard's main audience are pro users.
You should learn the difference between Apple as a whole with all its products and just a single Apple product -- in this case Snow Leopard.
Home users can probably live with plain Leopard as well, considering that "home user"-targeted APIs where untouched making Snow Leopard not binary incompatible to Leopard for home user apps.

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rhetoric.sendmemoney Member since:
2006-01-22

"Whoa there killer, are you going to tell me Apple's target audience is NOT the home user?

No. I'm telling you that Snow Leopard's main audience are pro users.
You should learn the difference between Apple as a whole with all its products and just a single Apple product -- in this case Snow Leopard.
Home users can probably live with plain Leopard as well, considering that "home user"-targeted APIs where untouched making Snow Leopard not binary incompatible to Leopard for home user apps.
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Come on, really? Don't jump into an argument over semantics.

Besides, this is not being pushed as a Pro user product... its being pushed as an Apple product. No Apple phone rep is going to tell a home user over the phone not to upgrade because this is "targeted for Pro users." That is just ridiculous. In your estimation, is Apple going to start pushing a Business edition like Windows now? Puh-leeze. Stevie is going to come out on stage in his stupid black shirt and tell everyone the future is now... Snow Leopard.

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