Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 12th Jun 2009 18:25 UTC
Debian and its clones Well, this is interesting. We already have a Mono item ruffling some feathers on OSNews today, but here we have the apparent news that Tomboy has become a default part of GNOME on Squeeze, the next release of Debian. Wait, what now? Update: I've updated the article with Fedora's position in all this. Read on! Update II: Josselin Mouette replies.
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RE[2]: Why not?
by Slambert666 on Mon 15th Jun 2009 04:23 UTC in reply to "RE: Why not?"
Slambert666
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2008-10-30



The only problem with Mono is Red Hat's large investment in Java technology and dropping market share vs. Novell.

Red Hat should market their product based on the features and advantages rather than underhanded character assassinations. It didn't work for Microsoft and it wont work for Red Hat.

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RE[3]: Why not?
by gustl on Mon 15th Jun 2009 11:03 in reply to "RE[2]: Why not?"
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2006-01-19

Novell could have negotiated a patent peace concerning Mono between the whole of the community and Microsoft, instead they chose to just protect themselves.

Additionally Microsoft is no company you like to hand something which even allows them to FUD you out of the market.
And having all free Linux distros depending on Mono would allow Microsoft to FUD them.

Trying to keep Mono out of your core dependencies makes sense, because in the world of "big company vs. small company" lawsuits, having to enter the struggle usually is a defeat for the small company.

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RE[4]: Why not?
by abraxas on Mon 15th Jun 2009 12:47 in reply to "RE[3]: Why not?"
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2005-07-07

Novell could have negotiated a patent peace concerning Mono between the whole of the community and Microsoft, instead they chose to just protect themselves.


They could have but it makes no business sense to protect competing companies. We have to remember that we're talking about companies out to make a profit. Trusting them to protect anyone's interest but their own is naive.

And having all free Linux distros depending on Mono would allow Microsoft to FUD them.


How so? I think Mono only lends more credibility to .NET.

Trying to keep Mono out of your core dependencies makes sense, because in the world of "big company vs. small company" lawsuits, having to enter the struggle usually is a defeat for the small company.


If we always thought like that we would have ceded the entire software market to Microsoft a long time ago.

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RE[4]: Why not?
by vivainio on Mon 15th Jun 2009 13:35 in reply to "RE[3]: Why not?"
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2008-12-26

Trying to keep Mono out of your core dependencies makes sense, because in the world of "big company vs. small company" lawsuits, having to enter the struggle usually is a defeat for the small company.

Luckily (in the big picture), Mono still wouldn't be a core dependency for all of Linux desktop - just Gnome. We'll always have KDE. And it's mostly a dependency in name only, it could currently be fixed by just stripping a few apps and removing the dependency line from the metapackage.

I don't think the core Gnome devs would allow making it a dependency without which Gnome wouldn't run.

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