With Internet Explorer 8 out the door, Microsoft is trying to capitalise on its latest browser release with a marketing campaign outlining several benefits Internet Explorer 8 supposedly has over Chrome and Firefox. The campaign is titled "Get the facts", so I guess most of you will know what will come.
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Member since:2006-02-05
IE is compliant with ECMAScript 3, it is things from 4 (that are now in 5) that it doesn't do so well with. For all practical reasons its compliant with DOM 2 as well. SVG has been around for ages, but html 5 is the first time it was referenced in the html spec.
The only people that care in the least about w3c web standards are web developers, and we don't care if its an evolving standard or not, we care that it is something cool that can be used reliably across all the browsers. You are trying to make this about something else, which it is not. The EU cares about bundling, they dont care about w3c compliance.
I don't really want to talk with you about this anymore, because talking with you about anything even remotely related to microsoft is an exercise in running in circles.
Member since:2007-02-17
The only people that care in the least about w3c web standards are web developers, and we don't care if its an evolving standard or not, we care that it is something cool that can be used reliably across all the browsers. You are trying to make this about something else, which it is not. The EU cares about bundling, they dont care about w3c compliance.
I don't really want to talk with you about this anymore, because talking with you about anything even remotely related to microsoft is an exercise in running in circles.
You are in denial. One would feel sorry for you if you didn't keep trying to make excuses for Microsoft.
If you are finding it too hard to debate my points and you don't wish to discuss it further with me, why don't you try talking to some other web developers to see how they feel about Microsoft's noncompliance?
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1274353&cid=28387843
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1274353&cid=28388225
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1274353&cid=28388225
Here is a hint: you probably won't find a sympathetic ear there either.
Edited 2009-06-19 13:23 UTC
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2007-02-17
SVG is not an evolving standard.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svg
This does not mean that it is evolving, since SVG 1.2 is a superset that includes all of SVG 1.1.
SVG 1.1 has therefore been the standard for scalable graphics on the web for over eight years now. IE is still totally unable to deal with it.
ECMAScript 4 is abandonned.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECMAScript
ECMAScript 3 is the current standard, and it has been the standard since December 1999, almost a decade ago.
ECMAScript 5 is not the recommended standard, and in any case it is largely a subset.
No one would expect compliance with a standard that isn't out yet. Just ECMAScript 3 will do. IE has had a decade to be compliant, and doesn't manage it.
DOM Level 2 was published in late 2000. IE is compliant only with DOM level 1, which was published in 1998.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Document_Object_Model#Standardization
What would be the point in IE getting this wrong other than trying, through Windows dominance on the desktop, to make IE the only browser that would render some sites?
Oh yes it does. Ask the EU, and ask about a whopping fine that should be coming Microsoft's way.
Excuse me? The standards in question were all published over 5 years ago, up to 10 years ago in some cases. Everyone else is compliant, and IE alone is a generation behind.
Please try to keep up.
No, au contraire, they are 100% incorrect. They outright lie.
Edited 2009-06-19 05:33 UTC