Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 30th Jun 2009 10:02 UTC, submitted by Cytor
Internet & Networking In what you can certainly call a surprise move, The Pirate Bay has been sold. Global Gaming Factory has announced that is has purchased the torrent search engine for 60 million Swedish Krona (7.8 million USD). They plan to build a business model around The Pirate Bay where content providers and copyright owners get compensatation.
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Are we entitled?
by iskios on Tue 30th Jun 2009 11:57 UTC
iskios
Member since:
2005-07-06

Um, at what point do any of you see that the Movie and Record companies have a point? Are we all entitled to just get whatever we want for free? Shouldn't we be willing to pay some amount to pay the Movie and Music creators a licensing fee, maybe?

I think I get that there are a lot of odd, stupid laws and contracts out there that do not allow me, for example, to buy something made in Cuba or England or Romania because the RIAA does not have a proper contract out there or the Writers Guild doesn't get a cut, and I see where I might go out and download it because I am simply not able to buy it, but is The Dark Knight really so expensive that you can't buy it? Come on!!!

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RE: Are we entitled?
by cmost on Tue 30th Jun 2009 12:07 in reply to "Are we entitled?"
cmost Member since:
2006-07-16

Um, at what point do any of you see that the Movie and Record companies have a point? Are we all entitled to just get whatever we want for free?...


Yes!

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RE: Are we entitled?
by r_a_trip on Tue 30th Jun 2009 14:01 in reply to "Are we entitled?"
r_a_trip Member since:
2005-07-06

...is The Dark Knight really so expensive that you can't buy it? Come on!!!

Well, downloading books, movies and music for personal use is not illegal in The Netherlands. We pay a fee on empty media like CD's and DVD's to compensate artists.

So yes, I've downloaded movies and watched them. Strangely enough, when my bf and I like a movie, we will buy it just to own that piece. On the other hand, if something is dreck that shouldn't have seen the light of day... it's mostly fat chance...

The Dark Knight is definitely on the "to buy" list.

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RE[2]: Are we entitled?
by deathshadow on Tue 30th Jun 2009 21:11 in reply to "RE: Are we entitled?"
deathshadow Member since:
2005-07-12

There is a try before you buy aspect to it - there's a lot of schlock out there that can be entertaining once, but isn't worth money to me or to others.

Which is kind of the legal issue, are they losing a sale or not.

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jabbotts Member since:
2007-09-06

With movies anyhow, there is that delay between theater release and the DVD coming out. Some get there own copy early then buy the DVD when it's finally made available. It's more of a grey area but it's another situation to consider.

There is also content format to consider. One may own the DVD but torrent down a format more friendly to a mobile media player. iTunes greatly reduces that need but it wasn't always so and iTunes does not support all mobile players.

In the last discussion, one fellow dusggested a trade in where you buy the DVD/license then later trade the disk in for a blueray/license. To gain an increase in quality this makes some sense. If it's simply to allow the consumer a different format; I think I'll stick to ripping my legally obtained audio disks to mp3 rather than paying for the same license twice when fair use already applies. Of course, in the US, this was illegal until the Mallenium Act was adjusted.

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RE: Are we entitled?
by bibe on Tue 30th Jun 2009 18:58 in reply to "Are we entitled?"
bibe Member since:
2005-07-09

What about stuff u can't buy outside US? Or even in the US? Are they entitled to discriminate while the technical burdens are no more? There are no "legal" possibilities however unrealistic the price would be for people of China or India.

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