Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 6th Jul 2009 22:03 UTC
Legal It was more or less not a question of if, but when, and now we're here: the US Department of Justice is said to launch an investigation into the US telecommunications industry to see if the two biggest players, AT&T and Verizon, are abusing their market position. Even though Apple is not a target for the probe, the usually trustworthy Wall Street Journal states that the iPhone/AT&T deal will also come under scrutiny [subscr. req.].
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Wow, so attractive...
by umccullough on Mon 6th Jul 2009 22:24 UTC
umccullough
Member since:
2006-01-26

IMO, mobile pricing is ridiculous. In a time when people are ditching land-lines completely in favor of wireless plans, I'm amazed that the pricing is still as poor as it is.

4-5 years ago now, I ditched my mobile phone entirely, I rarely use my landline for anything, and my internet access is all that really matters. My wife still has her own phone.

With wireless carriers charging the ridiculous rates that they do for data, and so against tethering, I can't see myself going back to a mobile phone anytime soon. These "innovations" they speak of seem to be new charges they dream up, and new ways to extract money from the consumer. I believe this is mostly specific to the U.S. market.

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RE: Wow, so attractive...
by avuton on Mon 6th Jul 2009 22:46 in reply to "Wow, so attractive..."
avuton Member since:
2009-07-06

Spot on. All I've been wanting is to get a decent phone from one of the local carriers with decent prices (MetroPCS or Cricket) and the best thing they have is a blackberry; which is good, but I'd like to get an android which those are all locked in to high price cell services. I'd pay full price for the phone, that's not a problem, it's definitely severely limiting my choice.

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RE[2]: Wow, so attractive...
by Macrat on Mon 6th Jul 2009 23:11 in reply to "RE: Wow, so attractive..."
Macrat Member since:
2006-03-27

Spot on. All I've been wanting is to get a decent phone from one of the local carriers with decent prices


But why do you expect to rely on a carrier for a phone?

Do you rely on your internet service for a computer?

That's the real problem with these national mobile phone scams.

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RE: Wow, so attractive...
by StephenBeDoper on Tue 7th Jul 2009 00:24 in reply to "Wow, so attractive..."
StephenBeDoper Member since:
2005-07-06

I believe this is mostly specific to the U.S. market.


Well, it could be worse - look northwards. To quote Michael Geist:

"For example, Rogers - Canada's sole GSM provider and therefore the only telecom company currently equipped to offer the iPhone - offers a starter data plan that provides 1.5 megabytes of data per month for $15 (each additional MB is $21). Since that is not even enough data to download a single high-resolution photograph, most consumers presumably opt for more. The company's biggest data plan provides 500 MB, yet costs $210 per month - far beyond the reach of most consumers."


http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/2117/135/

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RE[2]: Wow, so attractive...
by umccullough on Tue 7th Jul 2009 00:37 in reply to "RE: Wow, so attractive..."
umccullough Member since:
2006-01-26

Well, it could be worse - look northwards. To quote Michael Geist


Ouch.

There comes a point where a good old analog modem that ties into the headset jack (or bluetooth?) of your phone starts looking like a cost-effective alternative for data access ;)

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RE[2]: Wow, so attractive...
by willerd on Tue 7th Jul 2009 02:58 in reply to "RE: Wow, so attractive..."
willerd Member since:
2005-07-15

I really hate the idea that I'm defending Rogers but this info is now outdated. For an "internet stick" the plan is still not great but you get 500MB per month for $25, 1 GB per month for $30, 3 GB per month for $60 or 5 GB for $80. For a smart phone data plan you get $45 300 Anytime (35¢ per additional minute) Unlimited Evenings & Weekends (9pm) 500 MB $0.03 / MB or for $70 550 Anytime (35¢ per additional minute) Unlimited Evenings & Weekends (9pm) 1 GB $0.03 / MB

Here's the proof --

http://www.rogers.com/web/content/wireless-plans/iphone_card_plans

http://www.rogers.com/web/content/wireless-plans/iphone_smartphone_...

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RE[2]: Wow, so attractive...
by chrish on Tue 7th Jul 2009 12:44 in reply to "RE: Wow, so attractive..."
chrish Member since:
2005-07-14

Caller ID is also an extra charge for mobiles in Canada, something like $6-$9 CAD/month.

We pay the most for the worst service in the world, basically.

Sure is awesome having three companies control 100% of the wireless market up here. Amazingly they all offer similar products and services at exactly the same price points... no sir, no collusion going on!

Seriously considering just dropping my cell phone in August when my contract is up.

- chrish

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RE[2]: Wow, so attractive...
by qunying on Wed 8th Jul 2009 00:23 in reply to "RE: Wow, so attractive..."
qunying Member since:
2008-06-04

The price for the Rogers is old (that was 2007 article). I don't like their pricing, but it is not that ridiculous:

The Mega Value $25 w/ 1000 Messaging + 6 GB Data Service Plan 100 + 50 Bonus Weekday Minutes Unlimited Evenings and Weekends from 9 PM 1000 Messages
voice: $25.00 data: $30.00 total: $55.00

Mega Value $25 w/ MY5 Local + 6 GB Data Service Plan 100 + 50 Bonus Weekday Minutes Unlimited Evenings and Weekends from 9 PM MY5 Local
voice:$25.00 data: $30.00 total:$55.00

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RE: Wow, so attractive...
by Leroy on Tue 7th Jul 2009 12:23 in reply to "Wow, so attractive..."
Leroy Member since:
2006-07-06

I agree with the new ways of charging. The new commercials even make fun of a guy who just wants to talk on the phone; not use those extra services.

Must of been spying on me. If the DoJ wants to investigate the Telecomms, then it should find out why mobile phones have such poor reception and voice quality.

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