Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 6th Jul 2009 22:03 UTC
Legal It was more or less not a question of if, but when, and now we're here: the US Department of Justice is said to launch an investigation into the US telecommunications industry to see if the two biggest players, AT&T and Verizon, are abusing their market position. Even though Apple is not a target for the probe, the usually trustworthy Wall Street Journal states that the iPhone/AT&T deal will also come under scrutiny [subscr. req.].
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RE: Wow, so attractive...
by StephenBeDoper on Tue 7th Jul 2009 00:24 UTC in reply to "Wow, so attractive..."
StephenBeDoper
Member since:
2005-07-06

I believe this is mostly specific to the U.S. market.


Well, it could be worse - look northwards. To quote Michael Geist:

"For example, Rogers - Canada's sole GSM provider and therefore the only telecom company currently equipped to offer the iPhone - offers a starter data plan that provides 1.5 megabytes of data per month for $15 (each additional MB is $21). Since that is not even enough data to download a single high-resolution photograph, most consumers presumably opt for more. The company's biggest data plan provides 500 MB, yet costs $210 per month - far beyond the reach of most consumers."


http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/2117/135/

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RE[2]: Wow, so attractive...
by umccullough on Tue 7th Jul 2009 00:37 in reply to "RE: Wow, so attractive..."
umccullough Member since:
2006-01-26

Well, it could be worse - look northwards. To quote Michael Geist


Ouch.

There comes a point where a good old analog modem that ties into the headset jack (or bluetooth?) of your phone starts looking like a cost-effective alternative for data access ;)

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RE[2]: Wow, so attractive...
by willerd on Tue 7th Jul 2009 02:58 in reply to "RE: Wow, so attractive..."
willerd Member since:
2005-07-15

I really hate the idea that I'm defending Rogers but this info is now outdated. For an "internet stick" the plan is still not great but you get 500MB per month for $25, 1 GB per month for $30, 3 GB per month for $60 or 5 GB for $80. For a smart phone data plan you get $45 300 Anytime (35¢ per additional minute) Unlimited Evenings & Weekends (9pm) 500 MB $0.03 / MB or for $70 550 Anytime (35¢ per additional minute) Unlimited Evenings & Weekends (9pm) 1 GB $0.03 / MB

Here's the proof --

http://www.rogers.com/web/content/wireless-plans/iphone_card_plans

http://www.rogers.com/web/content/wireless-plans/iphone_smartphone_...

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RE[3]: Wow, so attractive...
by kaiwai on Tue 7th Jul 2009 06:14 in reply to "RE[2]: Wow, so attractive..."
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

I really hate the idea that I'm defending Rogers but this info is now outdated. For an "internet stick" the plan is still not great but you get 500MB per month for $25, 1 GB per month for $30, 3 GB per month for $60 or 5 GB for $80. For a smart phone data plan you get $45 300 Anytime (35¢ per additional minute) Unlimited Evenings & Weekends (9pm) 500 MB $0.03 / MB or for $70 550 Anytime (35¢ per additional minute) Unlimited Evenings & Weekends (9pm) 1 GB $0.03 / MB

Here's the proof --

http://www.rogers.com/web/content/wireless-plans/iphone_card_plans

http://www.rogers.com/web/content/wireless-plans/iphone_smartphone_...


Assuming one goes to Vodafone in New Zealand, purchases an iPhone outright, plonk in a XT Network sim card, you can pay NZ$18 (US$11.50) per month and have the following (on prepaid):

http://store.telecom.co.nz/mobile/prepaid/plans

3 x Favourites
1500 Txt
240mb month

It might be a little expensive but at least in New Zealand like in Europe, Australia and possible Canada, we get this this called 'coverage', you know, when you move slightly out of the big cities we can get a signal. Kinda helpful if you go on a trip.

Edited 2009-07-07 06:33 UTC

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StephenBeDoper Member since:
2005-07-06

True, Rogers data plans are a little bit better these days. My cynical suspicion is that the lower rates for data are driven entirely by the iPhone, that it effectively put Rogers between a rock and a hard place.

I'm sure they were getting non-iPhone customers complaining to them ("Why do iPhone customers get 6GB/month, but I'm paying $200 for 500MB?"). And, on the other side, I'm sure that people paying nearly $100/month for an iPhone wouldn't have been happy to get bills for going over their data transfer quota.

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RE[2]: Wow, so attractive...
by chrish on Tue 7th Jul 2009 12:44 in reply to "RE: Wow, so attractive..."
chrish Member since:
2005-07-14

Caller ID is also an extra charge for mobiles in Canada, something like $6-$9 CAD/month.

We pay the most for the worst service in the world, basically.

Sure is awesome having three companies control 100% of the wireless market up here. Amazingly they all offer similar products and services at exactly the same price points... no sir, no collusion going on!

Seriously considering just dropping my cell phone in August when my contract is up.

- chrish

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RE[2]: Wow, so attractive...
by qunying on Wed 8th Jul 2009 00:23 in reply to "RE: Wow, so attractive..."
qunying Member since:
2008-06-04

The price for the Rogers is old (that was 2007 article). I don't like their pricing, but it is not that ridiculous:

The Mega Value $25 w/ 1000 Messaging + 6 GB Data Service Plan 100 + 50 Bonus Weekday Minutes Unlimited Evenings and Weekends from 9 PM 1000 Messages
voice: $25.00 data: $30.00 total: $55.00

Mega Value $25 w/ MY5 Local + 6 GB Data Service Plan 100 + 50 Bonus Weekday Minutes Unlimited Evenings and Weekends from 9 PM MY5 Local
voice:$25.00 data: $30.00 total:$55.00

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StephenBeDoper Member since:
2005-07-06

Their pricing has improved a bit, as I acknowledged in another comment. They probably weren't thrilled about the "publicity" that CBC gave them, by pointing out that Canada was the 2nd most expensive place in the world to own an iPhone (and 1st, after an initial promotion expired).

They don't seem to have upgraded data plans for older phones, though. E.g., my aging Treo still seems to have the $15 for 1.5 MB/month plan.

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