Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 9th Jul 2009 21:20 UTC
A day earlier than expected, Microsoft has released version 3 of its Flash alternative Silverlight, including a number of related tools to aid in Silverlight development. It comes with a whole lot of new features.
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RE[5]: Comment by kaiwai
by vivainio on Fri 10th Jul 2009 09:36
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Member since:2008-12-26
If you like open standards, tell them to be able to provide solutions for problems when they occurr, not 10 years after they do and then complain.
Agreed. The solution is to fix the standards process, which admittedly sucks.
You have to go way far than VIDEO tag to wane Flash/Silverlight.
Let's see silverlight gain popularity in the first place. Flash is, in practice, a video tag in drag (oh yeah, it also supports making stupid games, ads, and intros - but those are not particularly interesting).
And don't forget Java applets (remember those from the 90's?), which is what the Silverlight basically is. That technology failed spectacularly, and Silverlight is going down the same path (albeit with much deeper pockets to keep it alive).
RE[6]: Comment by kaiwai
by TBPrince on Fri 10th Jul 2009 10:00
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Member since:2005-07-06
Agreed. The solution is to fix the standards process, which admittedly sucks.
Or resolve to adopt the best proprietary technology which is available at the moment and ask its propietor to standardize it. I don't think they would refuse and evolution process could start over from there, in a open way.
Let's see silverlight gain popularity in the first place. Flash is, in practice, a video tag in drag (oh yeah, it also supports making stupid games, ads, and intros - but those are not particularly interesting). And don't forget Java applets (remember those from the 90's?), which is what the Silverlight basically is. That technology failed spectacularly, and Silverlight is going down the same path (albeit with much deeper pockets to keep it alive).
Right parallel. However, Java applets where far too advanced for what computers and browsers could do at that moment. They were slow and they lacked a server-side counterpart. When those failed, Sun didn't really invest in them anymore until computers were ready. And at that time it was too late.
It's true that Flahs is mostly used for videos but there's much it could do. And Silverlight has a few advantages over Flash too.
The key point here is how fast Internet connections can be. If connections gets faster and faster (and widespread by using wireless technologies), smarter frameworks like Flash and Silverlight will gain popularity. If connections will improve but not so quickly, HTML+JavaScript will be the preferred way.
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2005-07-06
Talking is cheap. The reason why Flash became so popular is exactly the reason why you were able to have a VIDEO tag in 2009 while Flash solved this problem like 7 years ago. If you don't understand this "little" difference, you just become a priest of nothing.
Reason why proprietary technologies become popular is linked to their ability to solve a problem in the very same moment it will arise. If you like open standards, tell them to be able to provide solutions for problems when they occurr, not 10 years after they do and then complain.
And btw, if you think you could wean YouTube Flash support because now you have VIDEO tag, maybe you didn't actually check what Flash (or Silverlight) really is. You have to go way far than VIDEO tag to wane Flash/Silverlight.