Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 21st Jul 2009 20:10 UTC, submitted by kaiwai
Hardware, Embedded Systems This is one sad story to report on. Sun Danyong, 25-year-old employee at Chinese manufacturing company Foxconn, has committed suicide after being subjected to apparently rather rigorous interrogation methods by Foxconn's Central Security Division. Danyong handled a shipment of 16 iPhone prototypes, and one of them went missing. Update: Apple responds: "We are saddened by the tragic loss of this young employee, and we are awaiting results of the investigations into his death. We require our suppliers to treat all workers with dignity and respect."
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Comment by Thom_Holwerda
by Thom_Holwerda on Wed 22nd Jul 2009 07:12 UTC
Thom_Holwerda
Member since:
2005-06-29

Some seriously despicable comments in here.

We in the West haven't learned anything, have we? Comments here echo that centuries-old misconception that we the West are somehow inherently better than the rest of the world. We in the West simply cannot understand that there are cultures in the world where *shock gasp horror* things are done differently than here, where they have different beliefs and values.

"Wenn getanzt wird, will ich führen,
auch wenn ihr euch alleine dreht,
lasst euch ein wenig kontrollieren,
Ich zeige euch wie's richtig geht.

Ich kenne Schritte, die sehr nützen,
und werde euch vor Fehltritt schützen,
und wer nicht tanzen will am Schluss,
weiß noch nicht, dass er tanzen muss!"

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RE: Comment by Thom_Holwerda
by mieses on Wed 22nd Jul 2009 07:36 in reply to "Comment by Thom_Holwerda"
mieses Member since:
2006-02-07

a civilized person should still show respect for cultures that do not value human life and liberty.

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RE: Comment by Thom_Holwerda
by Soulbender on Wed 22nd Jul 2009 13:28 in reply to "Comment by Thom_Holwerda"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

We in the West haven't learned anything, have we?


We've learned to accept other cultures unquestionably, apparently...

We in the West simply cannot understand that there are cultures in the world where *shock gasp horror* things are done differently than here, where they have different beliefs and values.


I guess we should just accept female circumcision, oppression of women and other horrible "beliefs and values" because, hey, it's a different culture. I'm not saying the West is better (we're a bunch of assholes too and wrong about a lot of things) but this whole unquestionable acceptance of values and beliefs just because they're from other, non-Western cultures is nonsense.
I'm living quite happily in a non-Western culture but that doesn't mean I have to accept every damn value or belief they have.

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RE[2]: Comment by Thom_Holwerda
by orfanum on Wed 22nd Jul 2009 16:13 in reply to "RE: Comment by Thom_Holwerda"
orfanum Member since:
2006-06-02

We are getting a bit off topic here but I'd say there's a difference between, 'right', 'acceptable', 'understandable' and 'inconceivable'. You may be 'right' to say that this event is not 'understandable' by you but you'd probably be less correct to say that, if this person did commit suicide as the result of the actions of his employer, it is something that is 'inconceivable'.

I find it interesting that you say we seem to have become supine in the face of other cultures, by which you presumably mean we who still live in the geographical West, yet you brazenly assert the right not to respect the customs and laws of those around you. Aren't you rather acting a little like those you appear to condemn - or will you square this circle by encouraging those Asians around you to stand up to your browbeating? Let me know how it goes...

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