Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 24th Jul 2009 04:56 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless Palm has released the first major update to its brand new webOS platform, version 1.1. It comes packed with a lot of bug fixes, speed improvements, and new features, mostly geared towards the enterprise, but there's also a lot of stuff in there for ordinary consumers. And iTunes sync? The game is on: Palm re-enabled iTunes syncing in webOS 1.1. Update: Palm isn't waiting for Apple to take the next step - Palm has reported Apple to the USB Implementers Forum. "Palm believes that openness and interoperability offer better experiences for users by allowing them the freedom to use the content they own without interference across devices and services, so on behalf of consumers, we have notified the USB Implementers Forum of what we believe is improper use of the Vendor ID number by another member." Update II: More on how Palm masquerades the Pre as an iPod.
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RE[2]: Get ready for...
by John.Gustafsson on Fri 24th Jul 2009 07:12 UTC in reply to "RE: Get ready for..."
John.Gustafsson
Member since:
2005-08-08

Why didn't Palm write their own application to sync music and other things with their Palm Pre? Because iTunes doesn't stop you from importing *your* DRM-free music into another application and then sync it with whatever you please.

Do you require the sync software for your Sony Ericsson to work with all devices? Nokia? LG? Samsung? RIM? No, not really. So why is iTunes different? Because it doesn't suck as far as sync software goes?

Seriously, Palm dropped the ball big time on this one. They might have hired ex-apple engineers, but they sure haven't learned anything else from Apple. They need their own support structure for their device, which includes their own software for computers. I've said it before and I am saying it again. RIM should buy WebOS from Palm while it still has a chance.

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by tyrione on Fri 24th Jul 2009 07:30 in reply to "RE[2]: Get ready for..."
tyrione Member since:
2005-11-21

Why didn't Palm write their own application to sync music and other things with their Palm Pre? Because iTunes doesn't stop you from importing *your* DRM-free music into another application and then sync it with whatever you please.

Do you require the sync software for your Sony Ericsson to work with all devices? Nokia? LG? Samsung? RIM? No, not really. So why is iTunes different? Because it doesn't suck as far as sync software goes?

Seriously, Palm dropped the ball big time on this one. They might have hired ex-apple engineers, but they sure haven't learned anything else from Apple. They need their own support structure for their device, which includes their own software for computers. I've said it before and I am saying it again. RIM should buy WebOS from Palm while it still has a chance.


Apple has contracts with the Producers of the Music/Video to offer them that system which in return helps drive sales of devices to Apple.

For SONY never managing that infrastructure shows a complete lack of competence on their part. They have massive music/video offerings and still didn't provide a solution to drive sales of their own hardware.

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by kragil on Fri 24th Jul 2009 07:34 in reply to "RE[2]: Get ready for..."
kragil Member since:
2006-01-04

Nonsense, Apple needs to accept that is a dominant player in the music area and needs to allow third party hardware to connect to iTunes.

I really hope the EU will force them to do that.(They actaully care for consumers.)

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by middleware on Sun 26th Jul 2009 10:02 in reply to "RE[3]: Get ready for..."
middleware Member since:
2006-05-11

When Apple allow other device connect to iTunes, it also relinquishes the control to the protocol, and leave it to public domain in large. This is not bad by itself. But leave a protocol to public domain also means it will be more difficult to add new features to it in the future because have to consider compatibility to tens of vendors. So an open, public protocol should occur only when the features in a domain is relatively mature. Do you think the domain of music, phone, and smart mobile device is as mature as that of operating system or FTP server? I don't think so. Then who should decide what iTune protocol must reserve for compatibility and what should be obsolete for innovation in the future? Is that Palm or others whoever can hack it?

I'd like to have market competition to either let the real prominence player show and release its protocol much later when the feature is pretty mature, or have every player have a draw and seat down to discuss an inter-work solution all together. Inter-work through one hacking another is crazy.

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by 3rdalbum on Fri 24th Jul 2009 10:24 in reply to "RE[2]: Get ready for..."
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2008-05-26

So why is iTunes different? Because it doesn't suck as far as sync software goes?


That obviously can't be the reason, if you know what I mean :-)

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by phoenix on Fri 24th Jul 2009 16:40 in reply to "RE[2]: Get ready for..."
phoenix Member since:
2005-07-11

Why didn't Palm write their own application to sync music and other things with their Palm Pre? Because iTunes doesn't stop you from importing *your* DRM-free music into another application and then sync it with whatever you please.

Do you require the sync software for your Sony Ericsson to work with all devices? Nokia? LG? Samsung? RIM? No, not really. So why is iTunes different? Because it doesn't suck as far as sync software goes?


Wouldn't it be wonderful if there was just a single sync framework that all the different music managers, PIM apps, and portable devices could use? So that each individual hardware manufacturer didn't have their own, separate sync apps?

It's really annoying that we have to have a sync app for Blackberry installed, a sync app for Nokia installed, a sync app for Sony-Ericsson installed, and a sync app for Creative installed, just because we happen to have 4 different phones/music players.

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by middleware on Sat 25th Jul 2009 06:12 in reply to "RE[3]: Get ready for..."
middleware Member since:
2006-05-11

What you ask for is an open standard to make all equipments inter-work with all sync-apps. However, it is unfair that one equipment vendor to make their equipment inter-work with another sync-app by hack, when such an open standard is still absent.

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