Linked by Jordan Spencer Cunningham on Mon 27th Jul 2009 20:53 UTC
Bugs & Viruses Adobe Flash. It's everywhere. Not all of us want it, but many are forced into submission simply because it's weaseled its way into a myriad of applied and common uses. This just makes all the worse the news that a vulnerability in Adobe Flash, Reader, and Acrobat applications is allowing malcontents to exploit computers with these products installed.
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darknexus
Member since:
2008-07-15

and as far as Flash goes I hope that Silverlight kills it dead, the heck with it being MS technology. If it's better, let it win for once.


Um, that would be the worst outcome imaginable for anyone who doesn't use Windows. The web should use open standards, and thankfully there's been progress towards this end in recent years. Silverlight would undo all the good that has been done in this area were it to gain prominence, and would give Microsoft a second shot at locking in the web like they attempted to do with ActiveX. I don't think one needs to imagine too hard to see where things would go from there, look at Windows and IE when Microsoft had no real competition.

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Gullible Jones Member since:
2006-05-23

Moonlight is available for Linux...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moonlight_(runtime)

Although I see what you mean about the binary codecs. Also, software patents are stupid, stifle innovation, and generally deserve to die horribly.

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darknexus Member since:
2008-07-15

Moonlight is available for Linux...


And barely supports some of Silverlight 2.0's features, let alone those of 3.0... not to mention Microsoft could effectively flip the killswitch on it whenever they wish. Like Gnash and Swfdec on the Flash side of things, Moonlight is doomed to constantly play catch-up and, even worse, is at Microsoft's mercy (at least Gnash and Swfdec can't be killed by Adobe). Not good at all for an open web experience, and that's not even bringing the binary codecs into the mix.

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shotsman Member since:
2005-07-22

And have you tried to actually use Moonlight?
I did once.
The site I went to didn't recognise Moonlight and suddenly, I was on a Microsoft site where I was being asked if I wanted to download Silverlight for Windows. Naff all use to me as I was using Linux.
IMHO, Silverlight should die a horrible death. It is nothing more than the latest Microsoft Lockin device.
As the functionality in Moonlight is always lagging that in Silverlight, it is easy for Redmond to keep the usefulness of Moonlight down to almost absolute zero.
At least I can get Flash on Windows, Linux & OS/X even if it is a pile of steaming do poo (but less smelly than the Silverlight one next door)

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Slambert666 Member since:
2008-10-30

Um, that would be the worst outcome imaginable for anyone who doesn't use Windows.


This is not true, Moonlight is a good implementation of silverlight, runs on linux, solaris, windows and BSD. Only problem is the codecs, but moonlight do provide for most free codecs.
Flash does not support free codecs and is the worst possible scenario.

The web should use open standards, and thankfully there's been progress towards this end in recent years.


Yes agreed, some progress has been made.

Silverlight would undo all the good that has been done in this area were it to gain prominence, and would give Microsoft a second shot at locking in the web like they attempted to do with ActiveX. I don't think one needs to imagine too hard to see where things would go from there, look at Windows and IE when Microsoft had no real competition.


Where do you get this stuff from? ActiveX was not Microsoft's attempt at "dominance" but an alternative to java applets and like applets was a flawed implementation.

Having to lie in order to come up with some stupid anti Microsoft arguments just makes you look paranoid.

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