A lot of work is under way in designing the user interface for the next two releases of Firefox - 3.7 and 4.0 - and both of the currently proposed themes (Windows-specific) look interesting. These interface refreshes were needed as well, as the current Firefox interface is showing its age. Looking at the mockup for Firefox 4.0, it all becomes clear: This is Firefox - Chromified.
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Member since:2006-02-15
I want a real world test case.
It IS a real-world test case if it affects an entire company. Just because you aren't allowed to see their private data does not make it less of a real-world one. They could just fill it with random data, but how would that be different from the approach I gave?
I haven't tried it myself nor do I really even have any interest in trying. I use FireFox myself, and I have noticed it is slower than f.ex. Opera. Opera is like a greased lightning compared to FF. But I like the customizability of FF and there's several addons I don't want to be without, as such I'll stick with it for the foreseeable future myself.
Member since:2005-07-06
Member since:2005-07-24
You heard it here first, folks. Rahul Sundaram of Red Hat, Inc., enterprise Linux vendor and owner of JBoss, does not consider intranet applications to be "real world" cases, and thus considers them to be unimportant.
Well, Rahul, I'm not going to give you access to our inventory management or ad hoc reporting apps, especially since you don't consider such things important enough for me to expect you to be careful what you do in them. However, I will give you a python script which generates a test case which exhibits the problem FF has exhibited for many years. Since 1.x, in fact. Though I must observe that there is a special place in Hell for bug triage staff who, when given a simple recipe to reproduce a problem, still insist that the end user do *all* the work.
So if you don't mind pulling your head out of the sand, and/or out of your ass for a moment, run the Python script below. I'm sure the formatting will be ruined. You'll probably have to reindent the for loop body.
You will find that while FF 3.5 takes over a minute to render the resulting page on reasonable hardware, Opera, and even IE6 under wine(!), render it in 3 seconds using an order of magnitude less memory.
Still don't think it's "real world"? Then you've never done any real business reporting apps. Which is understandable, since most web apps on the greater web thus far are toy apps from the standpoint of actually requiring browser capability. Maybe FF 3.5 is snappier for shopping cart checkout and pr0n. But not for heavy lifting in real business apps.
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print '<html><head><title>Firefox is dog slow!</title></head><body><table align="center" border="1" width="100%">'
y=0
for x in xrange(10000):
print '<tr>'
print '<td align="right">%s</td>' % y
y+=1
print '<td align="right">%s</td>' % y
y+=1
print '<td align="right">%s</td>' % y
y+=1
print '<td align="right">%s</td>' % y
y+=1
print '<td align="right">%s</td>' % y
y+=1
print '<td align="right">%s</td>' % y
y+=1
print '<td align="right">%s</td>' % y
y+=1
print '<td align="right">%s</td>' % y
y+=1
print '<td align="right">%s</td>' % y
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print '<td align="right">%s</td>' % y
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print '<td align="right">%s</td>' % y
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print '</tr>'
print '</table></html>'
Edited 2009-07-28 14:56 UTC
Member since:2005-07-06
Now you are being plain silly. My opinions on osnews have nothing whatsoever to do with the organization I work for. I am sure you wouldn't find it fair if someone associated your random comments to the organization you work for like that either. So don't stop being civil. If you want to be useful and have a test case, file a bug report. Ranting and being rude here changes nothing.
Besides, I never said Intranet websites are not a test case but since I can't access yours, using your Intranet website as a example is completely useless. I could claim my Intranet website brings down all the browsers except Firefox 3.5 as well. See the point?
Edited 2009-07-29 01:34 UTC
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2005-07-06
I want a real world test case. Not a contrived one. A public website demonstrating the problem would be useful. Barring that, a script that generates such a troublesome webpage would do. I am not claiming that the problem does not exist but I am merely interested in getting it reported if it there is a demonstrable test case. Been using Firefox 3.5(.1) for quite sometime in Fedora 11 and as a very heavy user have generally have found the performance to be much better. No doubt about that.