Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 29th Jul 2009 17:10 UTC
Apple The discussion around whether or not jailbreaking iPhones should be exempt from the DMCA has just reached a level of ridiculousness that words can't really describe any longer. As some of you might know, Apple and the Electronic Frontier Foundation are in a tussle with one another over whether or not the US Copyright Office should put an exemption in the DMCA allowing the jailbreaking of iPhones. Apple's reasoning for why no exemption should be made is rather... Over-the-top.
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Apple Just Irks Me!
by red_devel on Wed 29th Jul 2009 17:25 UTC
red_devel
Member since:
2006-03-30

Even if I liked OS X and didn't think it was a usability nightmare, and even if I thought Apple hardware was really sooo sexy and not more prone to issues, and even if I had a wallet deep enough to ignore the ridiculous price tags, I would still not buy Apple because I just CAN'T stand Apple culture. From the ridiculous marketing hype around the release of every new product, to the ridiculous "Apple knows best" mentality we see in examples like this, the App Store, or the Psytar case, to the ridiculous fanboys they seem to attract who accept and even DEFEND every ridiculous decision made by Cupertino, its just miserable! No. Thank. You. I'd go back to using Windows before I lived in that world.

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RE: Apple Just Irks Me!
by jason_ff on Wed 29th Jul 2009 17:38 in reply to "Apple Just Irks Me!"
jason_ff Member since:
2006-06-29

Anti-Apple culture is just as bad...

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RE: Apple Just Irks Me!
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Wed 29th Jul 2009 18:06 in reply to "Apple Just Irks Me!"
Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

That's why you just ignore it. Windows marketing isn't any better.

As always with anything you buy:

1) determine your needs
2) evaluate capabilities of all solutions
3) choose solution that offers the best value while still meeting your needs.



Effective advertising *can* help step 2, but not usually its just buried in the website somewhere.

Oh, and never seek help in a forum. The signal to noise ratio is just too high.

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RE[2]: Apple Just Irks Me!
by Brunis on Thu 30th Jul 2009 09:35 in reply to "RE: Apple Just Irks Me!"
Brunis Member since:
2005-11-01


1) determine your needs
2) evaluate capabilities of all solutions
3) choose solution that offers the best value while still meeting your needs.



Yeah, but you forget that when people go shopping they:

4) buy the coolest looking product in the store

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by tyrione on Wed 29th Jul 2009 18:18 in reply to "Apple Just Irks Me!"
RE[2]: Apple Just Irks Me!
by phoudoin on Wed 29th Jul 2009 18:36 in reply to "RE: Apple Just Irks Me!"
phoudoin Member since:
2006-06-09

Let's me guess, you think OS X usability is the best available, fit everyone, everything and everywhere?

One nightmare doesn't void other one(s).

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RE[2]: Apple Just Irks Me!
by red_devel on Wed 29th Jul 2009 19:00 in reply to "RE: Apple Just Irks Me!"
red_devel Member since:
2006-03-30

Man I wish I was allowed to mod you down off topic! What the heck does Linux have to do with anything in this story or my post??

Edit: typo

Edited 2009-07-29 19:00 UTC

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RE[2]: Apple Just Irks Me!
by gfolkert on Thu 30th Jul 2009 15:53 in reply to "RE: Apple Just Irks Me!"
gfolkert Member since:
2008-12-15

Didn't think it was a usability nightmare? Let me guess, you think Linux is the crown of Usability?

I dunno... I've been using Linux since 1995... and right now I use it exclusively to get things done.

I've not got problems with Mice, Laptops, Wireless, Video, Encryption, Disk Utilization, Audio, DVDs, CDs, keyboards, work-flow, e-mail, "office applications", collaboration, groupware connectivity, using networked resources, Using multiple displays from a laptop (without using multiple video cards or outputs) Blue-tooth *just works*, my packaging system is great, I'm using the laptop to its fullest. Virtualization is very pleasant and works... I've got the ability to run a COMPLETE development environment on my machine, easily. I can remotely connect to dang near anything?

What is this "usability" issue you have? I think its centered on ... something you won't address.

Remember, Linux is VERY friendly. Its just picky about its friends.

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RE: Apple Just Irks Me!
by sbergman27 on Wed 29th Jul 2009 19:16 in reply to "Apple Just Irks Me!"
sbergman27 Member since:
2005-07-24

Ah! Apple! What do I think of Apple?

MacOS is OK. The Unix core is nice, if a bit dated in places compared to other POSIX OSes. The slick desktop is nice, but really not my cup of tea. And its proprietary nature is somewhat of a downer. All in all, I would give their OS an unenthusiastic thumbs up.

The company itself is becoming more annoying with every passing day. Big thumbs down there.

The community surrounding Apple is varied, as is any community. There are a lot of Apple users, mostly developers, for whom I have a lot of respect. But the general run of Apple fans seem to be more annoying than the company itself. So I'd have to give the Apple community in general a big thumbs down.

But then, as a Linux guy, I come to the philosophy of "The enemy of my enemy is my friend". And based upon that, I guess I almost have to give the Apple world as a whole a rather uncertain thumbs up.

Why does life have to be so complicated? Perhaps I should become a Sandwich Maker.

Edited 2009-07-29 19:20 UTC

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