Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 4th Aug 2009 10:43 UTC
SuSE, openSUSE SUSE Linux used to be a very KDE-centric distribution. Then Novell came around, bought SUSE and Ximian, and slowely but surely they turned the now-openSUSE distribution into effectively a GNOME-centric distribution with KDE as its sidekick. The openSUSE community, however, doesn't appear to be particularly happy with KDE being a sidekick.
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KDE:ers are amusing
by kelvin on Wed 5th Aug 2009 08:58 UTC
kelvin
Member since:
2005-07-06

Once again, members of the KDE community continue to amuse us by proving to the world that they are whiny crybabies. :-) I know of no other community filled with such self-righteous feelings of entitlement.

Off the top of my head, here are some some of the hissy fits that members of the KDE community have thrown over the past decade:

- Google chooses GTK+ as a basis for Chrome on Linux
- Canonical chooses KDE3 for the 8.04 LTS release ("KDE4 is ready")
- Fedora chooses KDE4 for Fedora 9 in April 2008 ("KDE4 isn't ready")
- KDE 4.0 != KDE4
- "[Canonical|Red Hat|Novell|etc.] devotes more developers to GNOME than to KDE"
- "[Ubuntu|Red Hat|Suse|Fedora|etc.] should use KDE by default"
- "KDE is bending over backwards to seamlessly integrate GNOME-apps, GNOME should reciprocate."
- The Linux Standard Base is unable to support Qt due to the GPL license
- Novell proposes to drop KDE support from Suse
- Red Hat 8 ships with a custom KDE theme ("OMG, they changed our precious defaults!!!")
- Debian and Red Hat refusing to ship KDE due to licensing issues

There's a clear pattern here: certain members of the KDE community are very keen on telling other people what to do. That energy could be put to better use by improving KDE instead... but I'm just thinking out loud here.

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RE: KDE:ers are amusing
by anda_skoa on Wed 5th Aug 2009 09:17 in reply to "KDE:ers are amusing"
anda_skoa Member since:
2005-07-07

- Canonical chooses KDE3 for the 8.04 LTS release ("KDE4 is ready")


You got that one wrong. Canonical did not chose KDE3 for the 8.04 LTS release, as recommended by KDE, but chose to not include KDE for the 8.04 release.
But I guess it suites your list so why let facts get into its way.


- KDE 4.0 != KDE4


Pretty obvious, isn't it?
4.0 is one of the release of the KDE4 series. One would expect that later released add or improve things. Seems to be that way for other projects as well, e.g. GNOME 2.28 will have improvements over GNOME 2.26.


- The Linux Standard Base is unable to support Qt due to the GPL license

The LSB contains both Qt3 and Qt4.
Getting creative to get more list entries?

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RE[2]: KDE:ers are amusing
by kelvin on Wed 5th Aug 2009 13:15 in reply to "RE: KDE:ers are amusing"
kelvin Member since:
2005-07-06

You got that one wrong. Canonical did not chose KDE3 for the 8.04 LTS release, as recommended by KDE, but chose to not include KDE for the 8.04 release.

It still suits my list since hissy fits were thrown about somebody elses decision. KDE:ers doing what they do best! :-)

The LSB contains both Qt3 and Qt4.

Qt has been in the LSB since 2006:
http://dot.kde.org/2006/04/26/qt-included-new-lsb-desktop-standard

When the LSB was hesitant about supporting Qt a few years ago KDE:ers, true to form, threw hissy fits about it. Here's a summary of the discussion (which lasted several years):
http://www.linuxbase.org/futures/ideas/issues/libqt/

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