Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 17th Aug 2009 09:34 UTC, submitted by moochris
BeOS & Derivatives I had been following the mailing list for the Haiku project the past week with growing interest. The topic of discussion? Why, the alpha release, of course! What needs to be done, who needs to prepare what, and most importantly, what schedule are they going to settle on? Well, after numerous insightful back-and-forths, the community has settled on a schedule.
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RE[6]: Good and bad
by WendelFree on Mon 17th Aug 2009 16:47 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: Good and bad"
WendelFree
Member since:
2009-08-17

I have no problem with you saying it has problems [...]


Uh, ok. It sure sounds like it thought.

, what I have issues with you quite unambiguously making it sound as if the code as a whole sucks while only giving vague assertions with no substance to back that up, especially when your entire backing evidence is pretty much "It doesn't work on my machine". "I'm intimately familiar with NewOS" is utterly meaningless.



Not really. It means I know what I'm talking about (I do). To be clear: I have tried Haiku on two physical machines, along with VMWare. In VMWare with a two-cpu setup on my core2duo, the PCNetII driver locks up, and I know why (this is the patch I was talking about.) Generally, that driver is extremly badly written and serves as another example.

The code as a whole doesn't necessarily suck, but there are serious issues with the subsystems I have looked at regard security and stability. I can provide details why your TCP/IP stack is full of holes in both those camps (and I intend to submit this as PR's.)

Edited 2009-08-17 16:56 UTC

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RE[7]: Good and bad
by koki on Mon 17th Aug 2009 17:59 in reply to "RE[6]: Good and bad"
koki Member since:
2005-10-17

It means I know what I'm talking about (I do)...


Please, help make Haiku better by submitting patches to:

http://dev.haiku-os.org

We will then all believe you. ;)

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RE[8]: Good and bad
by WendelFree on Mon 17th Aug 2009 18:01 in reply to "RE[7]: Good and bad"
WendelFree Member since:
2009-08-17

"It means I know what I'm talking about (I do)...


Please, help make Haiku better by submitting patches to:

http://dev.haiku-os.org

We will then all believe you. ;)
"


I guess you missed the part where I said I was.

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RE[7]: Good and bad
by mmlr on Mon 17th Aug 2009 20:57 in reply to "RE[6]: Good and bad"
mmlr Member since:
2009-07-20


the PCNetII driver locks up, and I know why (this is the patch I was talking about.) Generally, that driver is extremly badly written and serves as another example.


Just to set this straight: The PCNetII driver that is present in Haiku is an unmodified copy of the FreeBSD driver (originally it is a NetBSD one though). It is one of the network drivers that make use of the FreeBSD network compatibility layer to use unmodified FreeBSD sources. The copy in our repository is two years old now and should most probably be updated. In any case, this driver does obviously not reflect the quality of the Haiku code base.

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